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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: adam20 on February 01, 2013, 11:08:06 AM
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Just delivered a Chance Psychedelic Handkerchief Vase - smaller size in orange - love it - I have a few other Handkerchief vases but this is my first psychedelic one - bit of mildew to inner surface not mentioned but it was cheap enough and looks great with my retro pieces.
Adam
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Like these myself,what size is yours?
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These patterns are always good buys as they are sought after. They both look to be the 4-in. variety - anything else is most unusual!
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It is the 4" size
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The funny thing here is that the orange one is scarcer than the black, although the black appears to be more collectable. The charts I produced for Chance Expressions (p.111) show that I observed 19 orange as opposed to 30 black vases sold on eBay over a 15-month period, yet the black vases always fetch a higher price. Not only that, the Escher pattern in any colour is actually scarcer than Psychedelic - "there's nowt as queer as folks" ;D
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The black is far more attractive than the orange, David. And the Esher pattern is... boring.
A scarce ugly thing is still just an ugly thing. ;)
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On a black background, the orange would look more impressive. Horses for courses. But don't diss the Escher!
But if you want to see something scarce and ugly, take a look at this:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51261.0.html
:)
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As you can see, I already had!
I do agree - the orange would look better on a black background - and even better on a purple ground.
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funny, I always thought 'Esher' was in Surrey ;) I did once collect the Handkerchief vases, but don't remember ever finding a Psychedelic example - although black can be seen as a bit depressing I guess, and orange as more cheerful. Perhaps it might help if you had some of the mushrooms whilst viewing ;D
Must admit I really can't see any purpose to the Diseased Milk Bottle design, and to me it does seem to lack anything that might appeal to the artistic senses - but guess art is all things to all men/wimmin - look how some people rave over Tracy's unmade bed or Jackson's dribbles.
Escher was in a different league to these Handkerchiefs - his stuff really was stunning.
Anyway, good piece of retro Adam, especially if not expensive - and cheerful colours. :)
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Jackson's "dribbles", when analysed mathematically via computer programmes turn out to be fractals, Paul.
They are not random dribbles, they are fabulous and sophisticated; they are "high" art.
Tracy Emin's bed is an exposure of the deepest and most shameful part of her soul - angst. It took courage to display that.
It is also, (in my not so humble opinion), "high" art. I think she's great and lovely.
Damian Hirst is just a p*ss artist though. ;D
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Escher was in a different league to these Handkerchiefs - his stuff really was stunning.
I couldn't agree more - I have many books on subject of his art! But the reason I chose 'Escher' to name that vase (in the absence of knowing what the real name was - actually Carré) was to liken it to his designs. BTW, it's worth visiting the "Museum in a Museum" at The Hague where much of Escher's art is displayed.
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well, you know I'm going to disagree with you Sue ;) :-*
It's a universally acknowledged truth that any man 'high' on something is going to produce controversial work - but not always work worthy of the name art. Pollock was an alcoholic who, had he not died on the road, would have drunk himself into the grave very soon anyway - and probably of all people he was the most surprised that his work was actually called art.
If you need a computer to work out whether something is art, then we've lost the plot. There was a retrospective in London about 7 or 8 years ago, and I did go (only cos one of my sons asked me to join him) - but I do think some of his work would make good wallpaper patterns.
But I'd agree that you can be high and do good things- look at Coleridge and Rossetti
Ms. Emmin very tragically experienced a traumatised childhood - and to her credit has risen above those problems and is capable of some very good art - something akin to German expressionism was an early area in which she was very good - again perhaps an outlet for the troubles of her early years.
But unmade beds - defintitely not............ but you can come and see my unmade bed any Sunday morning for free ;D
Escher was a genius - not just because of his designs but doubly so because of the method he chose to create them - perhaps on a par with Durer even :)
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One does not need the computer programmes to be able to recognise Pollock as art.
It was merely an interesting aside - I only mentioned it to lend weight to my arguement that there is something intrinsically and naturally "right" about his work.
Rossetti? pah, designs for the covers of boxes of (cheap) chocolates.
Coleridge was a genius. I like his music better than anything else though.
Most folk who desire a chemical high have demons to escape from.
(Even Kahil Gibran recognised this)
The "high" bit is irrelevant to the art; the demons are not.
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Interesting. I like my orange vase. It goes well with the orange Whitefriars, Poole Delphis and some of the orange melamine I have. Very typical 60s colour.
I also went to see the Pollock exhibition years ago. I loved it. Interesting to see the progression of his art from that with an esoteric lilt to the action painting, which despite his alcoholism was very emotionally evolved. Some of his larger canvases are so charged with feeling they moved me to tears.
I appreciate Emmin and Hirst but they don't move me in that way. Escher is great and his graphically designed art layered with meaning. I would like an Escher vase, may stumble on one - they do take up room though, even the 4". I like tall vases and wall charger/plates at the moment. I have very little room.
Thanks Adam