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Title: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: adam20 on August 24, 2011, 07:59:39 AM
This looks like a large pink and green swirled Stevens & Williams vase - 1930s - 50s

Just need confirmation for my photo database

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: Paul S. on August 24, 2011, 08:27:29 PM
hello Adam  -  I'm not being picky - seriously - but not having seen anything like this before, was just curious as to what your reference source was that makes you suggest S. & W. - presumably you have seen something like this in one of the books. :)
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: flying free on August 24, 2011, 11:33:27 PM
Adam are you thinking of Stevens and Williams rainbow glass?
The nearest I could find in shape is this one although it clearly isn't the same.
http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/items/211820/stevens-williams-rainbow-glass/

Could you possibly do another photo against a plain white background which would show the colours off better and the shape of the vase please?  It looks as though the vase is ribbed with wide ribs?
m
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: adam20 on August 25, 2011, 02:41:53 PM
I was thinkkng Rainbow range. Ref J Miller 2004 pp299. shows a bowl same shape and pattern. Sorry cannot rephoto as this is from archive and I no longer have the piece.

Thanks Adam

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: adam20 on August 25, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
Just found green and blue rainbow posy bowl in my photo archive - attributed to S&W - posting for comparison - same stripes and banding - all this could be wrong of course if attribution wrong - what other companies made these?

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: chriscooper on August 25, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/STEVENSWILLIAMSRAINBOWRANGEBOWL?authkey=Gv1sRgCJDwkMKR4d70Bw

https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/STEVENSWILLIAMSAMETHYSTRIBBEDRAINBOWBOWL

A couple of bowls if it helps with the pattern Adam

Chris
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: Bernard C on August 26, 2011, 11:09:26 PM
Adam — See Stevens and Williams or what........... (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,12744.0.html) for a useful comprehensive discussion on S&W/RB Rainbow complete with dating evidence for '30s and post-war production.

I bought a horizontally optic moulded Rainbow vase only a couple of days ago and am waiting for some reasonable daylight to take photographs, which I will append to either or both topics.  It's in a classic S&W/RB shape which I've seen in a whole variety of styles, such as Nazeing-style cloudy, fine threaded, and optic ribbed.   As I said in the linked topic:

...   A collection of as many shapes [of Rainbow] as you can find is an invaluable resource for learning 1930s RB art glass, otherwise poorly documented and often difficult.   ...

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: Bernard C on September 05, 2011, 03:00:37 PM
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/normal_DSCF1198.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/DSCF1198.jpg)     (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/normal_DSCF1200.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/DSCF1200.jpg)



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any image
to enlarge.


Height 8¼" 21cm
Maximum diameter 7" 17.5cm
Weight 3lb 14¼oz 1776g


Standard S&W/RB pontil finish —
  neatly ground out and polished.
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/normal_DSCF1201.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/DSCF1201.jpg)

Here are photographs of my horizontally optic moulded Rainbow vase, as promised.   I've tried to illustrate as many features of Rainbow as possible.    Note from the base in image 1 that the colour is close to the inside.   The signature spiral of colour on the base is slightly off-centre, as usual.   The rim is fire-finished.

I hope you find this useful.

Finally, an attractive and interesting feature of this particular style of Rainbow is that at some angles you can see the base through the side of the vase.   See below.

Bernard C.  8)

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/normal_DSCF1199.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/DSCF1199.jpg)
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: nigel benson on September 05, 2011, 04:06:31 PM

Simpalz,

Of course it's S&W/R&B Adam. I note that I didn't mention vertical ribbing in the post on the other thread.

Bernard, your recent acquisition is the vase shape that first gave me the clue that S&W made the cloudy green range that is often confused as being Nazeing, (and by extension, other ranges produced by S&W).

Nigel
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: adam20 on September 06, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Thanks everyone for their help on this. so first photo is S&W. Not sure about posy bowl though.

Adam
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: nigel benson on September 06, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
Quote
Not sure about posy bowl though.


Why not?  :o
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: adam20 on September 07, 2011, 08:47:06 AM
Hi

I didn't think the posy bowl fitted into the 'optic' catergory like the vases. I know little about S&W re this period. If it is S&W as you all suggest all the better.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: Bernard C on September 24, 2011, 07:19:39 PM
While sorting for tomorrow's fair I discovered that I have a horizontally optic moulded Rainbow flared bowl which is a perfect match to my horizontally optic moulded Rainbow vase shown above.   90% of the manufacturing process was the same — it was only at the very end that it was opened out into the bowl shape.   Those still with difficulty seeing different shapes as basically the same might find it useful to have a look at the two tomorrow.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams Vase?
Post by: Bernard C on September 29, 2011, 08:56:53 AM
Although nobody commented to me, I noticed several people looking at my two S&W/RB Rainbow pieces on Sunday at the Cambridge fair.   Below them I had a Whitefriars Twilight (smoke colour) horizontally optic moulded 9094 vase, which looked as if it had been made using the same horizontally optic mould as the two Rainbow pieces.   A little to the left I had a S&W/RB amethyst controlled bubble vase, made using the same shape mould as my Rainbow vase, not dissimilar to Whitefriars controlled bubble pieces like 9391.   I hope someone found this useful.

Bernard C.  8)