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Title: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on February 11, 2012, 03:15:10 PM

I have got this small Paperweight.
I will vote for whitefriars, not for Murano, but I am not sure.
And: how old is the weight?
About 1960s ?

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: johnphilip on February 11, 2012, 03:44:07 PM

Hi Lothar its not Whitefriars .

 

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on February 11, 2012, 06:38:57 PM

If not Whitefriars,
what ist it?

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: johnphilip on February 11, 2012, 10:46:26 PM

The canes look Murano to me .

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on February 12, 2012, 10:21:02 AM

Another pic from the canes.

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: petern00 on February 13, 2012, 01:59:22 AM

Cane colours and structure, and the Weight's profile remind me of some early- or mid-C20th English makers.  Perhaps one of the Board's cane buffs can shed some light on this possibility.

Peter

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: tropdevin on February 13, 2012, 05:16:20 PM

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I have had a good look at my images of Arculus, Walsh Walsh, Richardson, and unknown Old English paperweights, and don't see any canes that resemble these.  However, I do have a paperweight that has canes in the outer ring very like the green one in the close-up image, and with canes of the same style as the ones with the solid white centres (see below - open the link and you can compare the images side by side on screen).

Curiously, that was made by Whitefriars (signed / dated / labelled)....so whoever made Lothar's paperweight, I think there may well be Whitefriars canes in it. Of course, the presence of Whitefriars canes in a paperweight does not mean that Whitefriars made it - I have 3 paperweights with Whitefriars canes, but made by others.

Alan

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w155/rosismum/th_1408.jpg) (http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w155/rosismum/?action=view&current=1408.jpg)

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: johnphilip on February 13, 2012, 05:33:34 PM

Surely if it were W/Fs it would be made on a button ?

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: tropdevin on February 13, 2012, 05:43:10 PM

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Hi

My point was that I think it is Whitefriars canes, not necessarily a Whitefriars product...as I said, I have 3 paperweights with Whitefriars canes that were made by others.

Alan

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: johnphilip on February 13, 2012, 06:49:33 PM

Sorry its juvenile demetia . :thup:

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: tropdevin on February 13, 2012, 08:01:37 PM

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Between us we could probably combine, and have middle-aged dementia! We'd then know nothing about everything...and we could get a job on Breakfast TV, and many, many other programmes! And be journalists..! Gosh, the world is our lobster...!

Alan

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on February 13, 2012, 08:07:25 PM

The weight has 230 Gramm, dia ca. 6 cm; high ca. 5 cm and a flat, polished ground.
My question was: Whitefriars or Murano?
Perhaps it was not a good question.
Probably it is not Whiterfriars.
But:
- is it Murano?  Y/N
- is it English?   Y/N
Best regards!

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: tropdevin on February 14, 2012, 09:29:42 AM

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Hi Lothar

In my view, it is not Murano. It is most probably English, and was made by an unknown person using Whitefriars canes.

Alan

Title: Re: Whitefriars or Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on February 14, 2012, 10:13:56 AM

Hi Alan!
Many thanks.