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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: joshzorn on August 19, 2012, 08:51:49 AM

Title: help id murano piece - ID = Chirico of Naples
Post by: joshzorn on August 19, 2012, 08:51:49 AM
Hi. Newbie here.
I just started collecting vintage Italian pieces. I'm only 21 and have been bit by the hobby bug. I got a few pieces I want to see if anyone cam help id.
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: rocco on August 19, 2012, 12:42:08 PM
Hi and welcome to the board!
I am sure you will enjoy it here :)

It is better to post one item per thread, so if it gets identified it can be labeled and moved to the proper subsection.

I am not sure if the pieces you show are Murano glass (I think chances are better with the second than with the first), but wait what the experts will say.

Michael
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: ahremck on August 19, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of glass Josh.

As stated by Rocco the way this board works best is to start one topic for each item you are trying to identify.  Do not put up too many at once - two or three(at a pinch) seems to be an acceptable numbersince more will push others off the "front page" too quickly.  It is advisable not to put an item in one of the more specific areas (such as Murano Glass) unless you have certainty that it is indeed from Murano.  Better is to puyt it into the Glass area and the moderators will move it to a different area if that seeems advisable.  Finally, be patient, not everyone looks every day at the GMB but the right expert will definitely move you forward marvellously given time.  The current record for me being able to help is an item I spotted that was put up 6.5 years ago.

Photos.  It is advisable to post at least three photos for an item.  One a general overview, second a profile shot and third a clear photo of the base showin any marks or lables.  For some types of glass a clear photo of the rim is useful.

I concur the second item looks rather "Murano" but the first could be from many places.  It is a problem that simply looking at the top of an item, seemingly from Murano, is rarely definitive,  There are pieces from Bohemia, Whitefriars, Kosta, Orrefors, Hadeland, Chance, Leonora, Hioneri, Kamei, Val St Lambert, etc. etc. all of which can look vaguely Murano-ish.  That is why the set of photos can sometimes exclude makers from consideration and allow a better attribution to occur.

Ross
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: joshzorn on August 19, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
My bad. I will cruise around before posting again. Every board is different. The red piece I'm very curious about. It was sold as a biomorphic free form. They OS another for sale just like it. But blue instead of red and clear.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/34593627/vintage-murano-eames-era-freeform-blue?ref=usr_faveitems&atr_uid=23842545

Here are a few other pics.
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: joshzorn on August 19, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
Here is the bottom.

Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: TxSilver on August 20, 2012, 01:56:32 AM
Hi, Joshzorn, and welcome. Your red bowl is the type of glass that often has a "Lavorazione Arte Murano, Made in Italy" sticker on it. It was not made in Murano, however. It was made in Naples, Italy, by a company named Chirico.
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 20, 2012, 06:22:11 AM
Kaspersky tells me there's a trojan on that page Anita
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: joshzorn on August 20, 2012, 07:09:17 AM
Oh cool thank you!!!! I guess if anything not a bad find for 15$. Lol thanks again!
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: TxSilver on August 20, 2012, 12:12:56 PM
Christine, McAfee doesn't give any alerts for it. The only extra bit I get is an offer to translate.
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: Anne on August 26, 2012, 01:11:49 PM
Might be something in the shockwave flash part of the site - I visited with scripting off and Nod32 on and had no alert, but the scripting off can prevent such alerts. I've removed the link just in case...
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: joshzorn on August 26, 2012, 04:05:11 PM
Just out of curiosity why was this topic moved to a "no id" section?
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: Anne on August 27, 2012, 10:48:48 PM
Because it was ID'd as a Murano made piece.

Glass is the place to ask for an ID if you don't know where it's made - e.g. unlabelled or unmarked items, things which could be from various places, makers, etc... - by it's nature it's a high-traffic forum.

Once we know where it was made or who made a piece then it gets moved to the specialist discussion forum covering that area. These are less busy and it means that further discussion can take place without it dropping out of sight within hours. More info can come out in those forums, as we have people with specific interests who can add more - but they don't all visit everyday, so more info may take a while coming to light. 

Does that help explain how the board works?
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: joshzorn on August 27, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
Sure does, thanks!
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: TxSilver on August 27, 2012, 10:53:48 PM
Ann, we have a positive ID on it. Chirico of Naples, Italy. Definite ID.
Title: Re: help id murano pieces
Post by: Anne on August 29, 2012, 12:03:31 AM
Thanks Anita, I'd seen it but not got around to adding it to the topic header yet. :)