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Title: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: kazleeb on June 06, 2010, 12:25:30 PM
hi,another of my mums,its 7 inch tall and 7 1/2 ish across the top,alot of wear on the bottom,thanks kaz
Title: Re: clear vase with frog
Post by: Glen on June 06, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
Looks like Inwald (A.G.) I'll double check and get back to you.

Checked and now editing my response to give you the pattern / cat. number, which was 8201. Reference "Collecting Glass Vol 2" by William Heacock. 1985, in which one of Inwald's catalogues (believed to be circa 1920s) was first shared with glass collectors.

Glen

Title: Re: clear vase with frog
Post by: kazleeb on June 06, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
hi,thankyou for your help, im not telling my mum!kaz
Title: Re: clear vase with frog
Post by: Cathy B on June 07, 2010, 04:08:13 AM
Glen, what's the significance of the A.G.? (It's probably obvious, but you have to spell these things out for me, preferably slowly and sometimes four or five times :) )
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 07, 2010, 06:48:46 AM
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Aktiengesellschaft
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Cathy B on June 07, 2010, 07:16:19 AM
Veilen danke!  :kissy:
Title: Re: clear vase with frog
Post by: Glen on June 07, 2010, 07:49:25 AM
Glen, what's the significance of the A.G.? (It's probably obvious, but you have to spell these things out for me, preferably slowly and sometimes four or five times :) )

Cathy, I was publicly rebuked recently on the GMB for (correctly) attributing a piece to Josef Inwald, so I made the point of attributing to Inwald A.G. in the hope that will be acceptable here.

A.G. (Aktiengesellschaft) is loosely understood as a share trading company. I also have a copy of an Inwald catalogue cover that states Inwald A.S. which is quite interesting.

Some years ago I wrote about the use of the term A.G. on my old website in the context of Rindskop's Söhne and Brüder Rindskopf.

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/RindCOMPANY.html
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Cathy B on June 07, 2010, 08:23:04 AM
Oh yes, I remember. Sorry. :pb:

Thanks for the interesting little snippet on Rindskopf history as well.
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 07, 2010, 08:49:52 AM
A typo perhaps? AS is usually for Norwegian and Finnish companies.
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Glen on June 07, 2010, 09:17:22 AM
A typo perhaps? AS is usually for Norwegian and Finnish companies.

I don't think it was a typo. The A.S. is written in large letters on the actual front cover of the catalogue. It's interesting!



Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Anne on June 07, 2010, 12:06:08 PM
Looking at Christine's link which has a good explanation of what the A.G. means (thanks C!  :kissy:) I also noticed in the other abbreviations that those for Czech companies show A.S.
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the Czech Republic (Akciová společnost, a.s.)
so, as Inwald started out as a Czech company, would the A.S. be correct up until the time the headquarters moved to Vienna and became a joint stock company? (i.e. 1908, two years after the death of Josef Inwald himself.) [Sources: Neue Deutsche Biographie.] Or was it post-1908 and aimed at the Czech market rather than the German one? Or there might be some other reason... Glen, it is interesting as you say, does your catalogue date (or appear to date) to before 1908?
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Glen on June 07, 2010, 01:15:53 PM
Glen, it is interesting as you say, does your catalogue date (or appear to date) to before 1908?

I understood it to be circa 1940 (give or take a year or two either side).
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: Anne on June 07, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
Hmmm curious, as you'd expect anything from so late to carry the company's official name (with the A.G.) wouldn't you? I wonder if it was something that was produced in Czechoslovakia and the printer "corrected" what they thought was an error? It'd not be the first time that such a thing has happened. Or maybe it was a statement of protest against the takeover of Czechoslovakia (and thus loss of identity) by the Nazis. We'll probably never know for sure?
Title: Re: clear vase with frog ID = Inwald
Post by: glassaddict on June 08, 2010, 05:19:42 PM
I am also pleased to get an ID for this vase as I have had one for ages. The only thing I found was a seller on ebay selling 2 of these as Bagley 'Salisbury' which I knew it was not.

I am wondering if the seller is a member of this board and would like a correct attribution. Here is a link to their items  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Antique-Art-Deco-30s-Bagley-glass-Salisbury-vase-w-frog-/290441591409?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item439faafa71 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Antique-Art-Deco-30s-Bagley-glass-Salisbury-vase-w-frog-/290441591409?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item439faafa71)

Hil :)