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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Pip on October 17, 2006, 10:08:04 AM
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I'm a real Sklo Union glass fan but this is something I've not seen before - it's an unusual orangey peachy colour and looks 1930's ish to me with a pattern of vertical lines and oval lenses, it also has the typical ground down base one would expect of a Sklo Union piece. I think it's definitely Czech but is it too early to be Sklo Union? Could it be one of the early moulds produced later? Perhaps it's not even Czech at all! I'm confused and any help regarding IDing and dating this would be fab and much appreciated, as ever.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/pips-trip/orangesklo10001.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/pips-trip/orangesklo20001.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/pips-trip/orangesklo30001.jpg
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Hi Pip,
Glen will be along soon no doubt to correct me, :D but this looks like it might be a pattern known as Bohemian Ovals, which was made by Josef Inwald. This would pre-date Sklo Union by forty-five years or more.
Regards,
Marcus
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Snap! Here's mine: http://i11.tinypic.com/2u8axiw.jpg
I see this type of vase fairly regularly in Kent. I can't say I'm particularly enamoured by them or the colour to be honest. :roll:
PS: oh yeah, I think Marcus is right, I saw this vase on her site I think. Lost the bookmark now due to AOL problems. :x
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I don't think it's Inwald's Bohemian Ovals (the name was given to the pattern by Carnival collectors - and it is known in a few scarce Carnival examples). The Bohemian Ovals pattern doesn't have the intervening verticals - only the ovals. You can see an example near the bottom of this page.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/DrapVart.html
Can you check the base (underneath) of the vase? Is it mirror polished shiny? That's an Inwald characteristic. If it isn't, then maybe we have to look elsewhere.
The vase rings a bell with me, I must say. I don't recall it in Carnival though. I'm really rushed at the moment on a project (with a deadline) so I can't do a thorough search right now. But someone else will surely know :lol:
Glen
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Thanks everyone for your replies - it's deffo the same as Maxines (I think mine's larger though - it's a biggun) but it's not the same as the one at the bottom of Glen's link :? I agree with Maxine about the colour and style - it's not my bag either which is my I'm asking what it is - I need to out it sharpish on eBay :-) - I'll go with the info given so far by Marcus. Thanks again Marcus, Maxine and Glen - much appreciated.
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Please don't call it ''Bohemian Ovals'' though, Pip. It will only confuse things.
Glen
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Please don't call it ''Bohemian Ovals'' though, Pip. It will only confuse things.
Glen
No no I won't but I was going to suggest it was possibly Inwald and probably 1930's ish - vague is good enough for me in this instance.
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The nearest I can get to an ID right now is that Pamela has one in her "Unknown" section of the Vases :(
Glen
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The nearest I can get to an ID right now is that Pamela has one in her "Unknown" section of the Vases :(
Glen
:lol: Thanks Glen, that must've been what I'd seen. Oh for a photographic memory! :lol:
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Hi,
Not "Bohemian Ovals", to which it bears a likeness.
Just scanned through all Markhbeinn, Rindskopf, Reich, Stoltzle and Inwald pattern books, could not find this. Will check the others later.
I told you Glen would be along to correct me. :lol:
Regards,
Marcus
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Cheers Marcus :D
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See, now you make me feel guilty, Marcus :oops: :oops:
:lol:
Glen
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See, now you make me feel guilty
Merely an admission of insufficient knowledge, on my part, and that I am not as familiar with this period of production as perhaps I should be.
Also an acknowledgement of your not inconsiderable awareness of an important period of glass-making, and one of the least well documented.
Where did guilt come in? :)
Regards,
Marcus
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Oh, and now you've made me blush! :oops: :oops: :oops:
Glen
:lol:
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Pip,
This is in the catalogues on the CD.
regards,
Marcus
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I have one of these as well and have just gone through the catalogues but must have missed it. Which catalogue should I look in please?
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Libochovice pre-1958, p 24 pattern number 2258.
Della
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Thanks Della. Yes I saw that one but the one Pip originally showed and mine are sort of a cross between 2257 and 2258. It has the scalloppped lenses of 2258 in two vertical rows of four alternately with the four vertical lines as 2257. Could be a rip off by another company perhaps?
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It's not 2258 or 2257 - both of which have similarities but are not the same. Like Ursa_Major I've been through the 1950s catalogues on the CD and can't match this pattern either. :(