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Title: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: obscurities on April 22, 2012, 02:59:43 AM
I am trying to ID these. I am not even sure of country of origin....  The colors of the painted designs are not as vivid as the pics make them look. Standing approx 10.5 inches tall the ground appears to be a Custard glass. I did not have a black light when I took the pics to see if it reacts or not. I would be surprised if it does not. They are at work so I can not check.....

There are no marks of any kind on them.

The design appears to be hand painted and not a transfer application.  Not really my style of glass, but they are quite striking in person.....

Any and all helps or hints will be greatly appreciated.

TIA,  Craig
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: Ohio on April 22, 2012, 04:27:50 AM
Craig you know I don't have any idea, however only one word comes to mind...sensational! Most interesting pair I've ever laid eyes on thats for certain...that i do know. Ken
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: flying free on April 22, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
sell....
they are gorgeous and provided they are in good condition will make a lot of money if you did decide to - well done!
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Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 22, 2012, 09:34:51 AM
The custard colour and the quality look good for Harrach. Certainly Bohemian. The turned-down style is not the standard for the UK market though.
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: keith on April 22, 2012, 10:44:35 AM
Great find,as Christine says probably Bohemian,seen lots over the years but not with tops like those,very nice ;D
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 22, 2012, 12:20:46 PM
I'll eat my hat if they don't glow brightly with UV.
And I love my hat.  ;D
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: flying free on April 23, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
could French not be a possibility as well?
Or Josephinenhutte for the base lustre if not the enamelling?

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Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: obscurities on July 22, 2012, 05:18:39 PM
Just thought I would bump these to see if any new eyes may see them..... Still trying to figure these out and I have really found nothing similar to them..... 

TIA
Craig
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: flying free on July 22, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
Possibly no help at all but the enamelling reminds me of Oertel or Pfohl. 
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Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: kitty-kat1234 on July 23, 2012, 03:38:29 AM
Dont know if this will help,but because i thought they were so STUNNING i had a quick look & found some of the dangly glass bits (prism ?) listed as French Crystal,do not know if these prism are all the same style or vary within countries.
And the decoration does remind me of French work,but i know nothing,sorry  ;D
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: flying free on July 23, 2012, 12:23:43 PM
Page 91 of Charles Hajdamach British Glass 1800-1914 - he explores the 'Bohemian connection' and on that page is a vase in the middle that has some similarities, albeit vague. It has a floral plaque and some of the gilt  work on it and also the cut and gilded rims - not the same but it is dated to about 1840-the early 1860's.
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Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 07, 2012, 12:20:19 PM
I think they may be pineapple stands. Somewhere (Sue? may remember where) I saw an advert or an original illustration showing a turned over rim thing as a pineapple stand
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 07, 2012, 12:50:48 PM
No, I don't remember where,  :-[

but as soon as I saw this thread being ressurected I thought to myself ;- "Christine and I found out these are pineapple stands, I wonder if she remembers where we saw this... "

Was it  just the other week when you were here? I'm sure it was an illustration, you pointed it out to me. What illustrations did we have to hand?
Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: flying free on January 27, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
Looking for opaline glass on another thread, I came across these on an antiques site.  They have the same shape as yours with the completely folded rim,  but then have separate bits that sit in the top.  I wonder if with the separate bits in they are candle holders and with them out they can be used as vases?  dual purpose?

http://alexiaamatoantiques.com/sales.asp?stock=S1

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Title: Re: Antique Lustres - Help with ID if it is Possible
Post by: flying free on January 30, 2015, 10:21:30 PM
the 'hole' in the top of these is narrow and peg shaped I think rather than as wide as that in yours, but this is a pair with a turned down rim and the glass 'shade' in the top just for reference.
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21722/lot/207/

I still wonder if these are French.

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