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Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Glen on August 08, 2006, 11:30:44 AM
I have been asked (by a friend, who thought the pieces were Carnival Glass) for any information about these two items.

One is a most unusual vase, the other a bowl. I don't know the size of either, as I only have the photos, but my friend says they are not as big as they look!

Can anyone throw any light on them?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2812
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2811

Glen
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Pat on August 08, 2006, 11:49:39 AM
The second one looks like Loetz or Austrian to me.
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Glen on August 08, 2006, 12:41:06 PM
Thanks Pat - much appreciated.

I can now add that they are almost certainly turn of the century (c 1900) and in Australia - though very likely imported from Europe. The original owner used to refer to them as "Lalique" (which of course they are not).

Does this help anyone fine tune it?

Glen
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: KevinH on August 08, 2006, 02:16:48 PM
The bowl appears to have relief decoration of some form (possibly floral?) which would be quite typical for 19th century items of this type from Bohemia, Austria (perhaps) and England. But the relief looks to be the same colour and finish as the body. The rim seems to show that it is well finished with a good thickness to the glass and this could suggest a better qualtiy item from one of the major makers.

The vase is of a style and form I have not seen before, although the applied foot decoartion does seem to be in keeping with Victorian ideas.
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Glen on August 08, 2006, 02:26:50 PM
Kev, very many thanks for your input - much appreciated.

I've just received a couple more photos of the pieces, which add a little visual "info".

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2814

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2813

Glen
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: josordoni on August 08, 2006, 07:21:24 PM
Ha ha Glen, your friend is not following the Prime Rule for Photos of Glass...

Where are the bases ?   :lol:
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Glen on August 08, 2006, 07:34:20 PM
Thanks for that, Lynne.

Glen
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Catisfaction on August 08, 2006, 11:20:25 PM
i just saw a piece  with  a  purple  foot  the same at #1 but  a shorter round top part on another board.  the general consensus was bohemian but  no one  new for  sure.

#2  i'd  lean towards loetz but look into Steuben also just in case.
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Catisfaction on August 08, 2006, 11:25:09 PM
there's some  pieces shown  here by  kralik with a similar foot as #1

http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib1c.htm
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: josordoni on August 09, 2006, 05:44:28 AM
Quote from: "Glen"
Thanks for that, Lynne.

Glen


oh, no smiley.... hope you're not offended Glen?  I was only teasing....  :oops:
Title: Bohemian? Two iridised pieces - but NOT Carnival
Post by: Glen on August 09, 2006, 07:47:20 AM
Thanks again, for the input - most appreciated.

Lynne - how could I possibly have been offended?  :shock: It certainly would have been nice to have had photos of the bases, but my friend (actually she's a close colleague of my son) only had those photos of the pieces. They are family heirlooms - passed from mother to daughter over three generations.

Catisfaction - I agree with you on the likelihood of Kralik for the vase. The foot is so distinctive, isn't it? Many thanks.

And Loetz seems to be the favourite for the bowl.

The consensus appears to be Bohemian Art Glass - very possibly Loetz bowl and Kralik vase.

My sincere thanks to everyone who has helped.

Glen