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Title: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: ttttootall on February 11, 2013, 02:42:15 PM
Is this a very rare murano paperweight?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230751874098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_89wt_679

Was wondering because I have one very similar without label.

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Title: Re: Why???
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 11, 2013, 02:50:20 PM
Note that it's unsold. Some people just have an inflated idea of worth
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: ttttootall on February 11, 2013, 02:54:33 PM
My thoughts exactly.

Thanks,
Tony
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on February 12, 2013, 11:13:41 AM
Not as amusing as
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ONE-OF-A-KIND-STUNNING-GLASS-PAPERWEIGHT-WITH-UNIQUE-BLUE-GLASS-TEARDROP-/190610051112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c613e9028

Free shipping must mean it's a bargain!
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 12, 2013, 11:18:30 AM
ROFL and you could keep your perfume in it. I always snigger at "stunning" paperweights
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 12, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
You're not the only sniggerer, Christine.

Everytime the word "stunning" is used in this context it brings two memories up.
One is rather unpleasant, and involves the signing of my divorce papers.
Standing in his office, seething at having been taken to the cleaners by my criminal lawyer ex who was having it off with his legal assistant, (yet was divorcing me, albeit at my request. I simply couldn't afford it.) I saw the beautiful Caithness Comet paperwight I had given him sitting on his desk and I grabbed it. I had just intended to keep it, I felt he had no right to such a nice thing, but he had a load of heavies around who grabbed it back and accused me of trying to stun him with it. I should have.
So when I hear the words stunning and paperweight together, I still itch to bring something very heavy down on that creep's skull.
It's just a natural instinct to protect the world from that sort of scum.  ::)

The other memory is much more amusing and involves one of Michael's comments about Vasart - that all it is good for is target practice, and that all pwts are good for is as the things you chuck at it.
This is, of course, just Michael's personal opinion and my sniggering is at his lovely and neat way of expressing it.
There is a lot of my glass he does love.
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: Nick77 on February 12, 2013, 11:47:07 AM
I love "Vintage Retro" well which is it it can't be both?
 
But the one that really gets to me especially prevalent with US sellers is "Hand Blown paperweight" now just how was this SOLID lump of glass blown?

Nick
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 12, 2013, 12:08:39 PM
 ;D
Hand-blown is another - surely, one blows with one's mouth.

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Title: Re: Why???
Post by: KevinH on February 12, 2013, 05:38:10 PM
"Vintage Retro" is acceptable given the modern meanings of "Vintage" as: "classic", "old", "outdated" and so forth.

"Hand-blown" is acceptable when it refers to items that were not "machine blown".

But a "Hand-blown" solid glass paperweight is not ... unless it is one that has has a label saying "Hand-blown Glass" (such labels do exist).
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 12, 2013, 05:55:12 PM
It was "hand-blown glass" labels to which I was referring.  ;D
Title: Re: Why???
Post by: Nick77 on February 12, 2013, 08:05:04 PM
"Vintage Retro" is acceptable given the modern meanings of "Vintage" as: "classic", "old", "outdated" and so forth.

"Hand-blown" is acceptable when it refers to items that were not "machine blown".

But a "Hand-blown" solid glass paperweight is not ... unless it is one that has has a label saying "Hand-blown Glass" (such labels do exist).

But surely retro refers to a modern item in the style of a vintage piece so it can't be both?

I've never seen the labels but a solid glass paperweight is not blown? Surely only hollow items glasses, bowl etc can be blown?
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Alsretro on February 12, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
...but here's a thing - I used to have a shop that I modestly had a sign made with my own name on it - thing was an awful lot of the people that came to it called it "that retro shop." Grammatically incorrect but if that's what people that sought it out for its piles of things predominantly from the 50s, 60s and 70s then that's what I let the stuff be called.  :)
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Roger H on February 12, 2013, 11:58:18 PM
Vintage is a very overused word to try and make the item appealing but to my way of thinking it should also state a period of time such as.
       69 vintage, 50s vintage,  early twentieth century vintage.
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: ttttootall on February 13, 2013, 09:47:18 AM
A young couple moves into a new neighborhood. The next morning while they are eating breakfast, the young woman sees her neighbor hanging the wash outside. "That laundry is not very clean; she doesn't know how to wash correctly. Perhaps she needs better laundry soap." Her husband looks on, remaining silent. Every time her neighbor hangs her wash to dry, the young woman makes the same comments. A month later, the woman is surprised to see a nice clean wash on the line and says to her husband: "Look, she's finally learned how to wash correctly. I wonder who taught her this? " The husband replies, "I got up early this morning and cleaned our windows." And so it is with life... What we see when watching others depends on the clarity of the window through which we look.
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Nick77 on February 13, 2013, 10:19:51 AM
A young couple moves into a new neighborhood. The next morning while they are eating breakfast, the young woman sees her neighbor hanging the wash outside. "That laundry is not very clean; she doesn't know how to wash correctly. Perhaps she needs better laundry soap." Her husband looks on, remaining silent. Every time her neighbor hangs her wash to dry, the young woman makes the same comments. A month later, the woman is surprised to see a nice clean wash on the line and says to her husband: "Look, she's finally learned how to wash correctly. I wonder who taught her this? " The husband replies, "I got up early this morning and cleaned our windows." And so it is with life... What we see when watching others depends on the clarity of the window through which we look.

Not quite sure what your implying here but it seems slightly insulting  >:(
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 13, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
I do not believe there is any insult beyond that within the fable.
It is merely illustrating the point that different folk have different perspectives and that sometimes, those perspectives might come from erroneous viewpoints.

Alsretro - when I visited your shop, when I thought about either of your shops, it was as "your" shop - as in your name above the door.
(and all the lovely rummaging I could do there while enjoying a chat with you!)
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: ttttootall on February 13, 2013, 01:29:30 PM
"I do not believe there is any insult beyond that within the fable.
It is merely illustrating the point that different folk have different perspectives and that sometimes, those perspectives might come from erroneous viewpoints." by chopin-liszt

"BRAVO" Sue (M), "bravo"...

Thank you,
Tony
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Nick77 on February 13, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
Hmmm.
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Roger H on February 13, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Gets complicated after a while doesn't it. I give up and give in and give you all my best regards.   Roger the Dodger. :)   
   
     
Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Nemmie on February 13, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ONE-OF-A-KIND-STUNNING-GLASS-PAPERWEIGHT-WITH-UNIQUE-BLUE-GLASS-TEARDROP-/190610051112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c613e9028

That Ebay auction is a gem my personal favourite part is "WE KNOW NOTHIGN OTHER THAN IT IS REALLY NEAT"

Genius.

I often get ridiculed by those who know me for putting words such as stunning, magnificent and gorgeous in my listing title but I just can't stop myself now. I have tried.


Title: Re: Murano paperweight - why so expensive???
Post by: Alsretro on February 13, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
...so to get back on topic - "why so expensive?" - well - priceless - Sue thank you and was always a pleasure when you did come in and your sharing of your enthusiasm and knowledge for the stuff and things some of which was of course - glass.
Tony - your tale - love it - priceless and yet it didn't cost a penny  :)