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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: adam20 on September 27, 2012, 04:23:15 PM
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Bought today for £2 in a charity shop - looks like a Monart shape SA - 5" high in mottled green with black and aventurine to rim - base is smooth polished see photo. Just posting to get a positive ID.
Thanks Adam
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Certainly Monart with the colour code being 162 and shape SA, an excellent price.
Gary
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:o :o :o
wow!
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£2 !!!!,can't get a tatty old piece of Chances for that in my local Charity shops!
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I had to fork out £3 for a pink frilly Monart plate - I was cheated! ;)
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Thanks. Glasgow seems to be good for Scottish glass. I have a good collection of Caithness built from charity shops, this is my first piece of Monart. I suppose being in Scotland helps but there is a lot of tat to be endured as well, saying that I got a large 60s Bitossi (Italian Ceramics) vase in a charity shop recently and I often get Strathearn. The boot sales are ok, I haven't yet been to Blochairn? My local dealer has four or five lovely Monart vases but wants £200 plus each for them. I love Skrdlovice and have a growing collection. Never seen that yet in the charity shops. I buy that direct from Czechoslovakia. Horses for courses I suppose.
Adam
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Recently sold this on eBay for £62.00 which is a good profit. However it shows a downward trend. My local dealers want £200+ for similar, and they wonder why they are not selling.
Thanks Adam
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What planet are your "local" dealers on? ;D
The price you got for your piece was very good - it is only a 5" small bit after all.
If it were this colourway and pattern in an 8" piece, I could see it at around £150... maximum - and hopeful!
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I agree, I was very happy to get that. My dealers are stuck back in the Monart boom period where it was crazy money. I remember selling small bowls for £100+ I did buy a lot of Vasart back then for my own collection and I see that's fallen. They are beautiful though and the pleasure is in looking at them so it doesn't matter. One dealer in particular has high prices and I know he paid plenty back when, so he is unhappy when I point out they may never sell. I would buy them, but I can pick them up for £10+ on eBay.
Adam
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Forgot to read the small print, did he? ;)
"Warning: the value of your investment may rise or fall depending on the prevailing market. You may not recover your initial capital."
or does that not exist any more? it doesn't seem to apply to uber-rich shareholders in BIG business.
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The same dealer had £100 on a Czech pressed vase I often see on eBay for £15.00. He's good though, he always gives me some off. He hasn't cottoned on to Alsterfors yet and I got a Strom for £20.00 recently. It's ups and downs. Look at Skrdlovice, I collect it and the prices are way up there now for good bits. Why the market dictates like this is amazing. Ah well.
Adam
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The only Czech glass I see here either isn't the sort worth looking at (bits of cracked, chipped Jacobean/Lord table stuff) or is the stuff by the unknown maker Frank calls "Celophane glass".
If I'd ever seen good Czech glass - I'd have beeen collecting it from that first sight!
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Sue. The charity shops here are full of that same Czech pressed glass. It's the dealers here, well two or three, that have the Skrdlovice, Mstisov and lots of Chribska. I have some huge pieces of Chribska some bought for £15.00. However I did buy this piece of Monart in a charity shop .. so .. I have been getting some good ceramic finds recently, but that's for another board.
I think if you buy quality it's always an investment, it will go up and down then up again. Look at chintz which is now having a revival.
Adam
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There are not enough Ysart collectors (apart from Paul Ysart weights) to sustain prices. An equivalent Lalique vase would sell in the 300 to 400 range for a 1930s piece that was probably produced in the thousands. Very few pieces of Monart would have been made in anything like that quantity with most probably being under 100 made (Colour/pattern/size). An easier comparison would be to Schneider with similar quantities and again a huge price gap simply because of the size of the market. Half a dozen very active collectors and prices will sky rocket again. But the supply of rarer examples seems to be a lot lower on eBay these days at any price.... so the steady collector base must exist too. I know of only a few collectors that are still active since the 1980s.