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Title: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks? - ID = Bagley David
Post by: RoynMargaret on April 27, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
They are a lovely rich emerald green in daylight and have a deep glow in UV light. Stand about 10cm tall.
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Jayne on April 27, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
They look like Bagley "David" Pattern 2231 (Version 1), not sure about the tray though. :)

http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=57
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: RoynMargaret on April 27, 2011, 09:04:49 PM
They look like Bagley "David" Pattern 2231 (Version 1), not sure about the tray though. :)

http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=57
Spot on, thank you.  :smg: I don't know how I missed them when I researched on the gts site - but then, I did not have a Bagley connection and thought they were stylistically more Continental.

The tray is a mismatch, although identical colouring and came together.

Version 2 is much different with a less Art Deco and less (IMO) interesting candlestick.

Roy
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Anne on April 27, 2011, 09:09:38 PM
Roy, yes Bagley David candlesticks. Nice!  :mrgreen: The tray is Bagley too, hence the good colour match. :) It's the Victoria tray shown here in a catalogue image of Victoria version one: http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16&Itemid=71 (http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16&Itemid=71)  and a photo of my pink one (which is part of the Victoria version two pattern set which only seems to have been made in pink) http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=72&limitstart=1 (http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=72&limitstart=1) - so your green one will be for a Victoria pattern one set (i.e. the earlier version).
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Jayne on April 27, 2011, 09:27:56 PM
Interestingly the Wakefield Museum has 3 designs listed for Bagley "David", the third one having a rectangular tray.

http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/index.asp?page=item&filename=bagley.mdf&itemId=WAKGMP%20:%20P2001.300

http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/index.asp?page=item&filename=bagley.mdf&itemId=WAKGMP%20:%20P2001.303

http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/index.asp?page=item&filename=bagley.mdf&itemId=WAKGMP%20:%20P2001.335

Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Anne on April 28, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
The third one they have as David actually looks like Victoria (version one) to me.... see catalogue image here:
http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16&Itemid=71
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: RoynMargaret on April 28, 2011, 09:14:22 PM
The third one they have as David actually looks like Victoria (version one) to me.... see catalogue image here:
http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16&Itemid=71
And that is definitely the tray I have - you can use the photographs on your website itf you like Anne.
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Jayne on April 28, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
I agree it looks like a Victoria tray even though it's not easy to see. I suppose there are all sorts of possibilities as to why that tray ended up with that set in the Museums pic and also in Roy's set. Lovely items by the way :)
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Anne on April 28, 2011, 10:35:10 PM
What I meant was the whole set in the 3rd pic looks like Victoria, not just the tray... sorry it wasn't clear from what I wrote earlier cos I was tired and rushing.  :-[ 

Roy, thank you, I'd be delighted to use them on the site.  :kissy:
Title: Re: Can you identify these diamond pattern uranium candlesticks?
Post by: Jayne on April 29, 2011, 12:54:50 AM
You're absolutely right Anne. I wasn't looking properly and always think of Victoria as the second set with the stubby candlesticks and powder pot with a handle(?) can't think of the word at the mo, probably as that's the one I like best of the two hehe!