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Title: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: PJ on October 14, 2012, 01:20:01 PM
17 cm high, polished pontil mark on base, no markings
English? Dartington?
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 14, 2012, 01:54:43 PM
Hello and welcome to the gmb, PJ.  :)

The colour looks like citrine - one often associated with ZBS. I'd think Czech would be the first area to investigate.
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: PJ on October 14, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
Thanks Sue

Although the colour is similar, the ZBS pieces look more organic in form whereas this is more geometric and is cut glass

The closest match I can find style-wise and in colour is with Aimo Okkolin cerium yellow pieces - Google these for images

Mysterious...

Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: Ivo on October 14, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
Cirtrine really is a Czech thing. There are several companies doing this colour, and they include ZBS . Not just organic, also cut. The other one is Desna. And Moser is big on this colour which they developed in 1928.
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 14, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
I've had an etched/engraved piece in citrine, (just a thin glass vase) and recently found a pressed-but-organic and deco-looking bit,.
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: Ivo on October 14, 2012, 04:17:05 PM
Hessenglas did citrine too...
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: NMott on October 14, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
Might be Moser.
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 14, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
Looking at the piece in question, Moser does look a likely contender. It's rather classy.
(I only put those 2 pics in, because they're not ZBS, just citrine.)
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: PJ on October 15, 2012, 05:50:06 PM
Many thanks for all the input everyone. The colour does indeed look like a perfect match for Citrine so it may well be Czech

I've not been able to fing pictures of anything similar so far.

It is a rather beautiful little thing so I'm curious to ID it
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 15, 2012, 06:09:09 PM
It's a bit quiet here just now - but don't give up hope. It can sometimes take years to get an id, although I'm sure this vase won't take that long. We just need the right person to come along and see it.
It's really nice, looks very well made.  :)
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: bOBA on October 15, 2012, 06:13:18 PM
An elegant vase. Just to clarify please, is the base polished completely flat? I would expect this with a possible Czech piece, but if the pontil rod mark is polished into a concave central circle on the base, this would make Czech more doubtful.

If totally flat, it is possible to contact Moser and ask them about this piece, they have been very helpful with my enquiries, with cut pieces like this, the answer should be very clear from them, as they have a historian on site who has a lot of knowledge. (However, the Moser option is only one of a few possibilities).

customerservice@moser-glass.com

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: PJ on October 15, 2012, 07:17:04 PM
Thanks Robert. There is definitely a polished pontil mark rather than a flat base. I'll try to post a photo later if I can

Good idea re the Moser historian and archivist
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: bOBA on October 15, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
The polished pontil mark is rare/unknown for Moser, I have only seen flat bases, same with ZBS. I am not even sure I would bother Moser with a piece of cut glass unless the base was flat! But it is a distinctive vase that deserves attribution..... maybe German and Scandinavian are options...



Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: yellow cut glass vase
Post by: PJ on October 21, 2012, 10:45:24 PM
I did eventually email the Moser historian - thanks for this idea

The reply - below - indicates it's not Moser but Zelezny Brod, although I'm not sure of their degree of confidence about this

Reply as follows

thank you for your e-mail and the sent pictures of your glass vase.
I have forwarded these photos to the Moser historian who confirmed me that this vase not produced by Moser glassworks as the citrine colour and way of producing do not correspond to the Moser production. It seems your vase might had been produced by the glassworks in Zelezny Brod (North Bohemia).