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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Resolved Paperweight Queries => Topic started by: Roger H on April 05, 2011, 01:25:11 PM
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Murano I believe??? Has a polished base. Diameter 2.4 inches. Regards Roger.
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Not Murano, Scottish judging from the canes. Looks like a variation of a Caithness "Noughts and Crosses" altho I have never seen one like this.
Other will know more.
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I agree - looks like a version of 'Noughts and Crosses'.
Alan
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Well when I bought it I thought perhaps it reminded me of the noughts and crosses as you suggest although I had only a top view. The cross cane looked too good for murano or chinese, more like the perthshire development of it but take a look at the base and it is a low profile at 1.2 inches.
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Is the cross in the LH cane a Maltese cross? If so, was this used in Scottish weights? I know very little (ie, nothing!) about paperweights, but am intending to learn.....
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I think the truth is that the shapes in canes can get very distorted as the hot glass is manipulated in manufacture (I wrote a detailed article on this in a PCA bulletin a few years ago, called 'Alphabet Soup' ). So it is easy to see something that is not meant to be there, or is a variation on what was meant to be there! That said, I think that Vasart / Strathearn and others made a variety of cross shapes that were intended to be what one might call Maltese crosses - and this cane is consistent with those.
Regarding bases, most Murano have flat polished bases, without doubt. But so do some of Scottish weights - for example, Ysart Harland era weights, Caithness weights, some Strathearn weights such as the 'scattered on muslin' and their clear glass spoke designs with dates in them.....all too confusing!
Alan
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Just had a look at a very similar weight put on this site for ID ,July 5th 2009. Seems it is Caithness, therefore the CUG underneath is really a CIIG denoting a second, possibly because it is difficult to see the lines. Maltese cross, I believe so. I didn't realise Caithness made such a low profile weight . Thanks for all the comments. Roger.
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I did see the CIIG mark, but assumed you had seen it and knew what that meant......I wonder why they would have a Maltese Cross though, rather than a St. Andrews cross??
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When I purchased the weight the description was CUG inscribed on the base, the only view I had was a top view but I only paid a small price for it so I bought it out of interest really.
Regards Roger
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The Saltire is rectangular - it doesn't fit into a round or square shape too well. :ooh:
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Hi All,
Just a quick note to confirm this is a Caithness weight. The cane does have a Maltese cross in it: it is one of a range of canes which Harry McKay and I designed in the early 1980s to use in all weights requiring millefiori canes. Originally as I remember we made around 22-23 basic "single pull " designs of which the Maltese cross was number 15. The canes were used for various weights right up to the end of the Perth factory. It was a Maltese cross as it is the easiest cross to form; all it required was Harry to use a basic 8 point star mould and then squeeze the star inbetween every second point of the star using his pricillas. This brought 4 of the inward facing points closer to the centre and forced the other 4 inward points back out to form the flatter outer edges of the cross. hope this helps.
Allan
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Thank you Allan for a very clear explaination. I am getting more and more interested in paperweights by the day....not sure where I will put them though! :usd:
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If you saw any of Allan's weights you'd find room for them, Rosieposie!
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1496
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Shouldn't have shown me those Sue!! ;)
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I've just had a hunt in the gallery - and I can't find Allan's Neptune weight - it's Leni's, but it came from the Scottish Glass Society Exhibition in 2005 in Crieff - and I was there, so I saw it, and some others....
>:D
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Wanna see more of Allan's paperweights? Click here (http://www.seelentags.de/AS/) :)
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Thank you Sue and Wolf, I was entranced looking at those. :sun: I have just one Caithness paperweight my sister bought me when I started my Aromatherapy clinic as it was so like my logo......it is two pink and two purple 'hands' surrounding a large drop-shaped bubble.....I love it!
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I know we're a little bit off-topic, but we simply can't have a response from Allan without showing his fabulous work. ;D
I found a load of teddy bear weights and a beautiful bunny rabbit one when trawling Scotland's Glass too....
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Thanks for the nice comments everyone, it is always good to know your work is appreciated.
Allan