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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: AnnieNan on August 19, 2008, 06:00:06 PM

Title: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: AnnieNan on August 19, 2008, 06:00:06 PM
Hello!  My first post, so please bear with me.  I am trying to find some information on this vase, which is marked Italy on the bottom, along with some other lettering which begins with an MA.  The area reading Italy is difficult to see, but above that, the lettering beginning with the MA also appears again.  Vase measures a bit over 8 inches tall and weighs over 6 pounds.  Color is clear but the bubbles give it a smoky grayish quality.  I certainly appreciate any input!  Thank you, Nanne.
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: Martyn K on August 19, 2008, 06:12:15 PM
MADE IN
 ITALY

???
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: Andy on August 19, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
 Hi Nanne,
welcome to the board, Martyn is probably right, 'made in Italy'
Im no expert on Murano (or anything really ;)  )
but having a quick look in Leslie Pina's book, circa fifties glass,
it has similarities to Venini, Murano, pieces, and the 'm' in made, reminds me of script from
'Venini' that i have seen.
The book says pieces were acid-stamped 'Venini Murano made in Italy'

Just a start, hopefully someone will give you more ideas, maybe a good idea to ask a moderator
to move your post to the 'Murano board'
regards
Andy

ps sometimes Venini is stamped on the inside rim of vases, worth checking :D
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: AnnieNan on August 19, 2008, 11:22:25 PM
Hello, Martyn & Andy:  Thank you both for your help.  For some reason, I kept thinking I saw an X or a Z after the MA, but your eye can play tricks on you when trying to decipher illegible print.  I will check under the rim for possible further signatures, appreciate that invaluable tip!   Meanwhile, I'll see if I can figure out how to get the post over to the Murano category.  Again, thanks for taking the time!  Nanne
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: Anne on August 19, 2008, 11:25:50 PM
Hi Nanne, it's not something you can do yourself. You need to ask a moderator to do it for you. (Mods are identifiable by having Global Moderator below their name beside their posts. I'll move this over for you now. :) Welcome to the board too.
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: TxSilver on August 26, 2008, 12:27:27 PM
The stamp reminds me a bit of the acid stamp that Martinuzzi used. I found one of his stamped vases online at http://www.antiquehelper.com/item.php?itemID=47550. The lettering on AnnieNan's vase looks thicker to me than the lettering on the red vase. I haven't seen the vase before, but I do think it may be Murano. Does anyone know if there are any other Muranese glassmakers that used the Made in Italy acid stamp?

Anita
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: soledivo on August 26, 2008, 01:04:17 PM
Anita, the 1st 2 letters that are the only ones you can see on Annies look the same to me as the red vase.
The red vase's stamp is seen from above but, Annies example is seen at an angle which would give the illusion of making the letters thicker.
Wouldn't it ? :chky:
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: TxSilver on August 26, 2008, 01:18:14 PM
It is hard to say. "Made in Italy" could have been done by so many people that, without seeing an attributed vase of the same design, it would be risky to say Martinuzzi made it. His work after leaving Venini is difficult to track.

The vase in this post looks like a nice one, but looks to me like it could have been done by several glassmakers that I am familiar with. Maybe a Martinuzzi expert will drop in to give a definite yes or no to the form and acid stamp.

Anita
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: AnnieNan on August 26, 2008, 02:27:57 PM
Hello Anita and Soledivo!  Thank you and everyone else for your posts.  I am posting a few extra photos of the one signed area that is easiest to read, and also what may be a partial label remnant that's in the middle of the base, in the hopes that it will help.  The second area where the word Italy is found is much more difficult to see and photograph, especially since the bottom of the vase is quite scratched as you can see.  Again, thanks to all!  Best, Nanne
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: Andy on August 26, 2008, 03:45:51 PM
Hi Nanne,
have a look at this long list of Murano labels, i just had a quick look through, a few similar.
 http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=102&page=1

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: johnphilip on August 26, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
Looks to me like a Seguso label
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: TxSilver on August 26, 2008, 04:55:34 PM
I also thought the shape of the vase looked very Seguso when I first saw the vase. The label reminded me of the Archimede Seguso label from the 1950s. I don't know if they ever acid etched their work "Made in Italy," but it could have been added later. I love a good puzzle.

Anita
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: soledivo on August 26, 2008, 05:30:49 PM
ah,,,,,in that case Anita,

now about my Seguso vase  :angel:

sorry couldn't resist it.
Title: Re: Please help me identify this Italian vase
Post by: Laura Friedman on September 09, 2008, 05:42:55 PM
In the 1930s, it was the law that all items imported into the US had to be permanently marked with the country of origin (wish they still did it today!).  So, your vase is most probably circa 1930s Murano glass. They all are stamped with a variation of "made in italy" from that period.

This stamp is not Venini.  The martinuzzi stamp I'm familiar with has the made in italy inside a diamond shape.  I concur that it is probably Seguso Vetri D'Arte, and a nice one at that!

Please let me know if the vase is for sale. I'd love to have it.