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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: chopin-liszt on March 10, 2005, 03:09:06 PM
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: Can anybody tell me what this is?
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Hello Everybody, I've had this for a while, bought it because I liked it. It's moulded/pressed glass. The big "bubbles" indent inwards, the tiny "bubbles" stick out, so it's not really a bubbly bit of glass at all.
http://tinypic.com/21r1it" http://tinypic.com/21r37k"
http://tinypic.com/21r3ad" http://tinypic.com/21r3g1"
http://tinypic.com/21r3iv"
I saw a bit of a similar overall shape listed on eBay, a tapered square outside with a round inside, with a textured surface. The one on eBay had an olive-green inside and was listed as Exebor. The base has a big round hollow. I'll calm down with pictures soon! Cheers, Sue (not a boy)
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Perhaps Exbor
http://www.glasshound.com/exborvase_28.html
Also pages 74 and 82 here (Interesting site)
http://www.designhandlung.de/sites/start.html
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Thank you very much indeed, Frank. :D
I'm still not quite sure if mine might be like this. I think those are better quality and they look as if they've been cut and polished and I don't think mine has. The second link IS an interesting site! Mine is finished off in exactly the same tidy way at the edges, but the colour is not what I would call "crystal clear", it has a very slight yellow tinge to it. Also there are a couple of small "creases" in the glass, where it has been pressed into the mould. Thanks very much for replying to my query. I don't feel nearly so left out ! :D Cheers, Sue.
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That seems to be the only Exbor design on-line.
Your piece obviously had a lot of work put into the mould and bo reason why it should match the one example seen so far.
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Sue your vase is pressed unlike the Exbor pieces Frank put forward. But it was not a bad guess at all - I have handled this vase before and would have placed it stylistically in Czechoslovakia. Le Casson, where are you when we need you!
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Hi, I'm here, skulking in the back-ground, sorry, been doing some follow-through stuff for other GMB folks, and other things :lol:
Can you please post a clear image of the base. Will look at it asap.
1st glance says not Exbor. Most if not all Exbor items are blown, or cast, then cut/polished, to the enth degree....and few, if any, examples, do not carry the acid-etched Exbor mark to the base. I have located a rare Cz archive, and will ask the curator to have a look, in case this appears there. Is it ok to forward a link to the image?
Beg your understanding, will be with you shortly,
Marcus
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Thanks for the links, Frank. Neither of the vases on the german site are Pavel Hlava, both were designed by Oldrich Lipsky and date to 1960. These are sommerso type, blown in the round, so to speak, and then cut to create flat facets. Absolutely stunning, as either appear to be flat plane vases, or, when turned through 45 degrees, a wavy sided vase. These appear in square or rectangular, when viewed from the top. brown/ clear v common, as are the grey/clear combinations. amethyst/clear less so, and few, very few in blue/amethyst, which are three layer sommerso.
Also be aware that Libera glass, have issued examples similar, though cut on one plane only, recently. V expensive, and with no acknowledgement of who was there first. Lipsky, with only one arm, was, in my estimation, a major talent, who, like so many designers in Czechoslovakia, have been consigned to obscurity, by the obsession with Vizner, Libensky/Brychtova et al.
As I said previously, send me decent images, and if I have info, or can find it, I will post, once I'm in a position to comment further.
Regards to you all,
Monsieur Le Poulailleur, Marcus (alias Poultry Guard-dog en France)
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Pressed? Probably.
Exbor? Probably not.
Sklarny Inwald/Sklo Union, very possible.
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Thanks to everybody for their interest, and help. :D I shall try to get a good image of the base tomorrow morning. There are no marks on the base. There are no seam marks, except perhaps, around the top edge, where the little slanty bit meets the outside wall. Overall it is not totally smooth, but has a sort of mini-cellulite texture, so perhaps it might be cast, with only the rim and the outside of the base polished. The base has a big round hollow, just like the Exbor pieces. Overall, I'd say the Exbor pieces are most likely to have been the inspiration for this, as the basic shape is nearly exactly the same. However, although it is a lovely piece, I'd say it was not top, top quality. The colour, the odd crease and the cellulite let it down a little. (I know the feeling well :( :roll: ). I have no problems at all with the images being sent/linked to somebody else, but you'll have to tolerate my beginner's attempts at using the camera, which is not the best, also, I never managed to get to grips with an old-fashioned camera either. Good luck with the chicks, Marcus, their tlc must be of primary importance after such a journey! Cheers, Sue.
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Just checked the archives and ventured upon the designs of Jan Sylvester Drost and Eryka Trzewik-Drost for Zabkowice glassworks in Poland in the early seventies. Stylewise these are very close to what was made at Sklo Union around the same time. Your vase may well be one from a series called "Asteroid" - though I have not seen this specific shape.
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Hello Marcus, Ivo and Frank et.al.,
Apologies for the delay in getting these pictures of the base here - I managed to disconnect the internet while doing them, and had to wait until my better half fixed it! There is NO mark on the base.
http://tinypic.com/231w88 (The cellulite and a crease)
http://tinypic.com/231wm0 (base)
http://tinypic.com/231ws8 (base)
http://tinypic.com/231wxs (base)
http://tinypic.com/231yl1 (base, please excuse the rubber gloves!))
http://tinypic.com/231yqp (picture of the rim)
Hope this helps! Thanks, Sue
Thanks for your suggestions, Ivo, sorry. Asteroid would, to me anyway, appear to be a very suitable name for this piece! :D Cheers, Sue
PS, I've just read Bernard's bit on location. I bought this in a "retro" shop in Dundee, about 4 years ago. TTFN, Sue.
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:D Hope nobody minds me doing the "bump", but if Marcus is back (and his chicks are okay, which I very much hope they are) I'd like to ask , Marcus if you agree with Ivo's suggestion that this might be an Asteroid vase? Cheers, Sue
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Chopin-Liszt wrote:
I'd like to ask , Marcus if you agree with Ivo's suggestion that this might be an Asteroid vase? Cheers, Sue
Stylistically similar, as Ivo observes. To my eye, "Asteroid" is much more regular in the distribution of bubbles/inclusions. I have reservations, as I understood "Asteroid" to have either painted or other-wise coloured bubbles/inclusions. However, that is not to say, that at some stage, "Asteroid" was not being produced undecorated. As I understand it, ZABK Glass as it now is, are still producing "Asteroid", but no piece of identical form, at this time, and all coloured.
Here's the homepage of ZABK Glass http://www.zabkglas.com.pl
and for Asteroid:
http://www.zabkglas.com.pl/index_pliki2/asteroid.htm
Regards,
Marcus
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:roll: Thanks for this everybody. Having looked at these pictures, I don't think this is my vase. I think I've seen these in charity shops, so I know what they're like. The surface texture is not at all the same, mine is much finer, and on mine, the big "bubbles" are indented and oval, while the little "bubbles" are round and stick out. It's a mystery! I still like it a lot. :D
:D I'm very glad to hear the chicks are thriving! :D Cheers, Sue.
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Their historical collection is intriguing, are these reproductions of their own early products or someone elses?
I loved "processing glass pulp into perfect glassware"
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I found the same "Asteroid" like decoration on glass building bricks in the DIY store today - and most glass building blocks nowadays are produced by Vitrablock in Duchcov, Czech Republic.
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:D:shock::D
This is all going back a very long way!
We've got a camera, 8) but I have to learn how to use it, and at the moment, I think I need supervision with anything that involves co-ordination. I will repost pics very soon.
When I was in Poland last November, I saw a vase the same as mine. :shock: It was in the window of a cafe, holding red and white roses and the Polish flag, all wrapped in red and white ribbons. Michael was stunned with disbelief when I did a double-take to rush back to check on it, having caught it in the corner of my eye as we passed.
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but, here's the homepage of ZABK Glass http://www.zabkglas.com.pl
Site now leads to all sorts of guff links... the ZABK Glass website has gone. :(