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Title: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: agincourt17 on September 13, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
A striking (presumably 1930s) orange & black tango glass dressing table set.

Recently sold on eBay for £63.

I would love to have seen it with a matching tray.


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Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: dirk. on September 13, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
French maybe?  :-\
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: dirk. on September 13, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Some search results:
- crackle (http://www.aurefletdutemps.com/img_objdeco/garniture%20de%20toilette0572/corps.htm)
- yellow (http://placedelours.superforum.fr/t3176-cherches-des-infos-set-de-toilette-art-deco-en-pate-de-verre)
- spatter (http://cgi.ebay.fr/GARNITURE-TOILETTE-PATE-DE-VERRE-ART-DECO-CLICHY-PANTIN-/221119780215?pt=FR_JG_C%C3%A9ramiques_Verre&hash=item337bc41577)
 :)
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: agincourt17 on September 13, 2012, 07:13:28 PM
Thank you for the interesting links, Dirk.

Because of the colours, I had assumed that the set would have been Czech or Bohemian, but certainly the French shapes shapes and especially the stoppers and lid finials, are remarkably similar to the eBay set.

Just such a shame that was no tray with this set.
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: agincourt17 on September 27, 2012, 08:43:25 PM
Another striking orange and black trinket set, this time with a tray.

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Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: Anne on October 05, 2012, 12:13:31 PM
Aren't they striking?! Lovely to see these, thanks Fred. :)
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: agincourt17 on February 18, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
Now a 10-piece set, this time with added enamelled decoration.

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Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 18, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
That looks Bohemian but it's a pale imitation of the other one; wishy washy orange and black enamelling not black glass
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: dirk. on February 18, 2013, 08:25:17 PM
Here´s the first set in a really gorgeous colourway:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/ANCIEN-SERVICE-DE-NUIT-BLEUE-/290863861403?pt=FR_JG_C%C3%A9ramiques_Verre&hash=item43b8d64e9b
 :o
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: agincourt17 on February 20, 2013, 10:51:33 AM
In all the above sets the glass seems to be solid (uncased).

Here is a (presumably part) set with pieces of similar shape, but the tray, comb or pin tray, lidded pot and perfume flask are of cased glass, with a transparent honey-coloured outer layer over an opaque white body producing an attractive yellowish-amber or citrine appearance.

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Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 20, 2013, 11:01:02 AM
Those could be completely different animals; they look like Walsh Walsh's Primrose, which is yellow uranium glass over white. Needs checking with a UV light. I also have the feeling they are in Hajdamach's second book on one of the catalogue pages.
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1229

I'm not sure where this thread is going because now we have three very different examples.
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: agincourt17 on February 20, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
Thank you for the Walsh Walsh reference, Christine - I simply assumed that the set was a variant on the other ‘French’ sets.

Walsh Walsh’s Primrose glass advert from the Pottery Gazette of February 1923 is, as you say, in Hajdamch’s ‘20th Century Glass’, plate 246 in the top left corner of page 135. The top row of the illustration does indeed show a trinket set (the pattern number is difficult to read - is it A3111?) with similar pieces in primrose glass cased on white,

However, the tray in the Walsh Walsh set is shown with the white body exposed on the interior surface, whereas the one I show has the transparent casing over the whole piece. Also, the photos give the impression of more of a citrine colour rather than ‘primrose’ as I envisage it.

I will try contacting the owner again to see how the pieces react to UV light, and to see just how ‘primrose’ the colour appears in reality.

Are there any other GMB members able to offer their expert opinion as to whether this cased set is really Walsh Walsh Primrose glass?

I originally thought that the thread was simply showing the diversity of European orange glass trinket sets, with some interesting addiional variants on colour by Dirk., but the potential Walsh Walsh connection might take it in quite a different direction, which may eventually deserve splitting off as a thread on its own.
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 20, 2013, 03:36:52 PM
It looks pretty primrosey to me. And the reality doesn't always match the advert...
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 20, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
I'm confident the yellow ones are Walsh, having looked at the advert. I wonder how much of the items in the advert actually went into production, as Primrose is pretty hard to find.
Title: Re: Orange & black tango glass dressing table set
Post by: Anne on February 20, 2013, 10:02:06 PM
I have a copy of the JWW advert showing the primrose set shapes...