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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: rosieposie on August 02, 2008, 11:34:01 PM

Title: Deco pattern set - ID = Czechoslovakian, Carl Stölzle und Sohne, Hermanshütte
Post by: rosieposie on August 02, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
Good evening all, I wondered if Pamela might be able to help here.....in fact anyone who reads this!
I have a whole set (well 2 sets actually!) of what I have always believed was a Walther glass product of the Deco period.
The design is the same as some of those listed on the Pressglas-pavillion site.
In the Bowls and plates section on row 53, item 1, and row 36 item 5, there are 2 bowls in the same pattern.
I have several pieces of this set, which also has cream jugs and sugar bowls and flat plates as well.
There are 2 vases depicted on the site, under unknown....Row 22, (which is, I think, a sugar bowl,) and row 7.  They have interesting arched feet in these 2 items and also on the little cream jugs I have.
The reason I had attributed them to Walther was because they are so similar to their design called 'Orient'.
Anybody got any thoughts on this??
I will try to put a picture up tomorrow, but it is a bit late for that tonight!
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: pamela on August 05, 2008, 07:25:28 PM
Rosie, definitely not Walther, maker still unknown I'm afraid - but we are working on this  ;) I'm tempted to think Polen
A photo would be fine nevertheless, please  :D
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 05, 2008, 08:07:37 PM
Oh Pamela, I really thought they were Walther :cry:
I have taken loads of pics, so what email address shall I send them to?  I will have to do them one at a time, 'cos I don't know any other way!!
I also have some pics of the Chris Dodds squirrels, and the "Oiva Toikka" birds I mentioned, and the Blue Turnmill elephant! :o  Shall I just send them all, and you can let me know which ones you might like more angles of??
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 07, 2008, 01:37:00 PM
Pics have been sent.....I would love to know who the maker was.....does anybody know for certain???
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: Anne on August 07, 2008, 07:01:27 PM
Pics added to Rosie's first two posts (4 per post). :)
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: pamela on August 07, 2008, 09:03:52 PM
Thanks Rosie and Anne for the photos  :)

A terrific collection, in fact! I hope you enjoy using all these beautiful items when having friends for dinner - it (the collection) cries for 'una festa sui prati' = garden party or picknick in green :D

Perhaps we may also invite Marcus to have a look? {{if his time allows it again in a few weeks time hopefully?}}

I may add that I remember having bought my first item (the pink vase) in: SCOTLAND! any bells ringing?
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 07, 2008, 09:17:36 PM
Thank you Pamela, I love them and use them.  I am still looking for another cream jug and sugar bowl to complete the 'third set', so get looking through all your cupboards everybody, someone out there has got them and might like to sell them.
I have 2 other sets, an extended Babley 'Cocktail Time' set in green, and a fascinating 'Quilted effect' set in green (You guessed it, I collect green glass!!), the maker of which I have never been able to discover. Would you like pictures of those Anne and Pamela??
BUT, I still haven't shown you my Rectangular Butterfly Bowl!! SPECTACULAR!!( & expensive!) U wanna C??
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: dirk. on August 07, 2008, 09:20:04 PM
I´d really appreciate that!!!

Regards,
Dirk
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 07, 2008, 09:27:44 PM
Sorry, I meant Bagley....slip of the finger!

Hello Dirk, I don't think we have 'met' yet.  Is it my green glass sets you would appreciate seeing, or are you answering someone else's question? Or is it the amazing Rectangular Butterfly bowl you are hoping to see?
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: dirk. on August 07, 2008, 09:36:02 PM
Hello Rosie!

Nice to ´meet´ you and -sorry, should have been more
detailed- yes, i was answering YOUR question and would
like to see all of your other green glass pieces.
Are they uranium? for that´s my main interrest...
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 07, 2008, 09:49:33 PM
Well Dirk, I doubt you would want to see all of my glass collection, it runs into hundreds :o.....I have been a collectaholic for years.
I think you mean the ones I have just mentioned!
I don't know if they are uranium.....what do I have to do to find out? I havent got a black light thingy that people boast about having, I just collect what I like the look of, mainly Art Deco and Art Nouveau, mainly green glass, and mainly just about anything I see in that category that I can afford.....that is except the Butterfly dish, which I took out a small mortgage for!!
I will do pics tomorrow, and see if I can list them directly onto this board, otherwise, can I ask Anne for her help again??
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: dirk. on August 07, 2008, 10:05:46 PM
You're absolutely right, that would indeed be a bit much here.
I'm rather new to collecting glass and therefore often astonished
about the quantity of other's collections...  :o ...I'm far from that!

If you don't have a blacklight, you can also try with a blue LED.
It will work on green uranium glass as well.
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 07, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
We'd love to see your pictures but put them on a new thread it makes archiving easier, and threads less confusing when we've all forgotten what we were talking about.

BTW uranium is my thing too  ;D

A blue LED will only work on uranium if it's a UV LED
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 07, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
Okydoky, I will see if I can get an UV lightbulb on eBay!! :clap:
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: Anne on August 08, 2008, 12:50:21 AM
Rosie,  your pattern is shown in the book Household Glassware in Australia 1880-1980 (by Kevin & Margaret Conway) as being Squared Eye by Crown Crystal of Australia, but I'm sure Cathy B (who researches this company) will be able to tell you if this has been proved or disproved. (The book does have some dubious attributions so need to be checked with other sources before being accepted.)

Edited to add: we have a topic discussing this pattern here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19981.0.html
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 08, 2008, 06:44:41 AM
Cathy does talk about the Crown Crystal variant in the linked thread but more important to stuff found in the UK is
Quote
marked checoslovaquia!
is what Pamela says in that thread, as I'm not sure much glass came back from the "Colonies"
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: Sklounion on August 08, 2008, 07:07:20 AM
Thank you all for the nudge, response here:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19981.0.html
Czechoslovakian, Carl Stoelzle und Sohne, Hermanshutte.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: pamela on August 08, 2008, 10:51:58 PM
we cannot thank you enough Marcus! I had totally forgottten the CZECH signed piece in my collection  >:D
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: Cathy B on August 09, 2008, 11:33:26 AM
Let me guess Rosie, was the vase with the stippling/frit surface one of those you bought from Australia?  ;D
Title: Re: Walther??
Post by: rosieposie on August 09, 2008, 12:28:44 PM
Amazingly, Cathy, I bought this from a lady in Hampshire, not too far from where I live!!
It is lovely, and would like more of the stippled effect pieces. 
I was bidding for a large bowl in the stippled pattern a little while ago, but it was withdrawn from sale overnight.......I 'logged on' in the morning and it was gone!  It took me a week to get over that!