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Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: David E on August 23, 2006, 01:10:25 PM
Came across this item from an importer's advertisement, dated 1951.

I was curious to know whether it was their original purpose, or if it was contrived by the maker/importer as an alternative use.

Importer was Artglass Ltd., 48 Carnaby Street, London, and the advert was titled 'Venetian Glass'. Can post the full advert if required: there is one of those stylised fish lamp stands also shown.
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: David E on August 23, 2006, 01:28:34 PM
Hmm... might help if I posted the actual picture link! :oops:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2968
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 23, 2006, 02:21:41 PM
It's a great kitsch idea 8)  but if they were originally intended for fags, then the inside bottom is the wrong shape to allow them to actually fan out properly.  It would have to reflect the shape at the top IMHO, otherwise they would all be squashed up inside.   :oops:
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Glen on August 23, 2006, 07:14:36 PM
Original Fenton ad (1927) calls them Fan Vases.

Sorry - not tobacciana.  :shock:

Glen
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Bernard C on August 23, 2006, 07:17:04 PM
David & Anne — the oval cigarettes are instantly recognisable as Passing Clouds by W.D. & H.O. Wills, the only oval cigarrette, and the only one sold in a pink packet or box.   Very much a fashionable lady's accessory.    See this 1956 advertisment (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180019790341&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D180019790341%26fvi%3D1).

Bernard C.  8)
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: David E on August 23, 2006, 07:32:16 PM
Ah, thanks for that! I actually collected cigarette packets when I was a nifter and I distinctly remember the pink Passing Clouds pack - never knew they were oval though :)  :shock:
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: josordoni on August 23, 2006, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: "Bernard C"
David & Anne — the oval cigarettes are instantly recognisable as Passing Clouds by W.D. & H.O. Wills, the only oval cigarrette, and the only one sold in a pink packet or box.   Very much a fashionable lady's accessory.    See this 1956 advertisment (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180019790341&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D180019790341%26fvi%3D1).

Bernard C.  8)


Not the only ones, Turkish and "oriental" cigarettes were also oval, very popular in pre-war Germany, disgusting smelly things that they were.....
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Bernard C on August 24, 2006, 06:50:46 AM
Quote from: "DenCill"
Ah, thanks for that! I actually collected cigarette packets when I was a nifter and I distinctly remember the pink Passing Clouds pack - never knew they were oval though ...

I collected almost anything in childhood, except boxes, which I put things in.   I had one of the pink 100s boxes — I can't remember what was in it, postage dues on piece, marbles, Meccano gears, or Bayko rods, perhaps.

Better stop now, or I will start reminiscing about marble runs.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: David E on August 24, 2006, 07:35:40 AM
I reckon collectors are born with a particular gene — whether it's faulty or not, I'd prefer not to speculate :lol:
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Pat on August 24, 2006, 08:57:10 AM
If you want marbel runs go the The House of Marbles in Bovey Tracey devon.
They also have attached a nice glass studio with two young artists blowing lovely glass-I know because I bought some!
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Bernard C on November 18, 2006, 07:17:47 PM
See this flip-top pack of Passing Clouds (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140045877619) , just completed on eBay.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Frank on November 18, 2006, 07:48:51 PM
The shape allows a fan-shaped arrangement of flowers on a narrow table or close to a wall on a buffet table.
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: josordoni on November 18, 2006, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: "Bernard C"
See this flip-top pack of Passing Clouds (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140045877619) , just completed on eBay.

Bernard C.  8)


Hilarious question,  does it have a health warning.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I think at that time cigarettes were recommended to help asthma!
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Sklounion on November 18, 2006, 09:20:41 PM
Now, cannabis is supposed to be beneficial for asthmatics....
At £31.00 per packet, I'll give up smoking and try this wonder illness management solution, now pass me some skins..... oooops tobacco is so dear, we'll have to take the medication neat...
Sorry, but a nonsense.
Take control of your lives, people, before the control freaks realise their ambitions.....
Here in France, yesterday the government announced an anti-charbon tax, ie anti-coal tax. Oh good said the greens, not realising that the last coal-mine here ended production in 2004, so who is paying the tax??? No-one.
Sadly, if this continues, then very little glass will be made, and very little will be affordable, art glass makers will be exterminated, for polluting....
etc....
Target the real problem, the US, and emergent industrial economies such as China....
Otherwise, nothing gets made, nothing sustains our physical needs, and we will have to eradicate our demand.
Somewhat contentiously,
Marcus
PS (Cafe here we come)
Title: A use for Fan Vases (or Fag Vases?) :-)
Post by: Bernard C on November 18, 2006, 10:52:59 PM
Marcus — I love it when you wax lyrical.   I never have a clue what you are talking about, nor do I follow your line of reasoning.   Many of your words are beyond me.    I have never heard of those you cite, nor of their quotations.

But I will defend to my last breath your right to free speech.   The world would be a poorer place without it.   Please get your soapbox out more often.

You remind me of Henry Burton.    Are you a descendant (possible, as they only cut his ears off)?

Later ... I think is is widely accepted that American English is much closer to that spoken by the likes of Shakespeare and Burton than our own.   One group from the 1607 Jamestown settlers founded a small colony on Tangier Island in Chesapeake Bay.   Being an island community, their language has changed significantly less than that of the mainland, and their language is regarded as the closest today to that of Shakespeare.   Wouldn't it be wonderful to hear them reading one of Burton's hell, fire and damnation attacks on Laud's pompous pronouncements.

Bernard C.  8)