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Title: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 01, 2008, 07:59:43 AM
I also bought this today, and was wondering IF anyone can tell me about this. Believe it to be a Swan, and the inside red color seems to be Pearlized, satin color.  It is on a swirled base.

Anyone have any info on this at all - maker, and age.....etc.  TIA.
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: antiquerose123 on August 11, 2010, 08:32:35 AM
** Bump from 2008 **   had No replies....So trying again... :spls:  Murano, Venetian, or Nothing?  Thxs
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: tam bam on August 11, 2010, 06:47:33 PM
Looks Murano in origin to me.

tam bam 

Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: ardy on August 12, 2010, 04:13:45 AM
Antiquerose: I have seen this iridescence, I think it is called, before on a red/gold vase by Seguso Vetri de Arts that a friend of mine owns. Yours is an absolutely stunning colour and appears to be very well made.

Hope you get to ID it as it looks like a piece by a master. If I had to guess I would say Barbini but my thoughts are often off with the pixies.
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: langhaugh on August 12, 2010, 06:47:42 AM
I'm with Tam Bam, as I don't see the iridescence. If it's on the inside layer of glass that would rule out iridescence, wouldn't it?  It looks as if there might be some gold there, though.

Why Barbini, Ardy?

David




Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: ardy on August 12, 2010, 07:27:04 AM
Hi David I was looking at some pieces in the USA and there was a duck that appeared somewhat similar in execution but the head was not joined like this one and the colour was different. Apart from this they were identical.   :X:

Saw a heart shaped piece of jewellery here http://www.muranoworks.com/acatalog/Glassware.html I thought the colour was a bit similar. Still I am colour blind so don't laugh too much.

Still at least it has got the discussion underway.

regards

Ardy

Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: ardy on August 13, 2010, 11:27:02 PM
Saw this in the completed ebay section 270615916816 although this is Green it seems to be in a similar vein to yours.

regards
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: cubby01 on August 13, 2010, 11:57:08 PM
Saw this in the completed ebay section 270615916816 although this is Green it seems to be in a similar vein to yours.

regards

Similar vein yes but on the linked-to bird the base is different, the work on the head seems different, the beak and tail are amber.  I think the one in the link reminds me of Seguso although not attributed there.  

I don't know that I see iridescence on Rose's piece either.  At first I thought I was seeing something like the color shimmer of dichrioc glass which would be more recent work  bit it's probably some metalic gold in the red glass.  Would be cool to see a good close up of that layer.

For what it's worth I'm a good bit color deficient too but only certain colors cause problems, for example I have a devil of a time trying to find a day-glo orange golf ball on a green fairway.  
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: ardy on August 14, 2010, 12:22:47 AM
It is impossible for me to see an off white against green. Day glo orange is perfect for me. I am P7 colour blind evidently you start at A1 and work down.

I agree a close up view of this might help. I don't put much faith in bases as they seem to be similar across many makers and I wonder if they buy them in pre-made unless it is a special piece?
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: antiquerose123 on August 21, 2010, 09:54:50 AM
Hi there:
I will take a close up as soon as possible of the shimmering red inside. 

In the meantime, I ran across this link  HERE  (http://retroartglass.com/store/item/nr4h/Clear_Glass/Massive_Murano_art_glass_hand_blown_goose_weighs_13_lbs.html).  Now I am only referring to this link due to the swirled and twisted base on the one there.  It looks much the same as mine.  Not saying that is the maker, as I guess (as stated here) that piece was made in 3 pieces.....so it is possible that *another* glass maker made the base, while the other was working on the other section ???  maybe.

Anyways, I thought I would add this here -- merely for my Swan twisted/swirled base as to the one in the link....Hope that is OK.  Will get a close up of the shimmering red later to post...

 ;)

Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: ardy on September 17, 2010, 10:56:03 PM
hi again I ran across this ebay item 200519087796 that appears to have the pearlised colour but the foot looks different but it does have part of a label attached, although it is not a separate photo.

Thought if it looks close to you you might write for another photo of the part label.
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: antiquerose123 on September 18, 2010, 04:18:55 PM
hi again I ran across this ebay item 200519087796 that appears to have the pearlised colour but the foot looks different but it does have part of a label attached, although it is not a separate photo.

Thought if it looks close to you you might write for another photo of the part label.

Hi there ardy, thanks for all the info.

yes that is what mine looks like on the inside.  I will go right now and take a pic of it out in the  :sun: as it is actually shinning to day.  I will also take a pic of the base to post.

To me -- the inside *pealized color* looks the same.  Thanks for hunting that down....and might be a lead.   :thup:
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: antiquerose123 on September 20, 2010, 06:03:59 AM
Antiquerose: I have seen this iridescence, I think it is called, before on a red/gold vase by Seguso Vetri de Arts that a friend of mine owns. Yours is an absolutely stunning colour and appears to be very well made.

Hope you get to ID it as it looks like a piece by a master. If I had to guess I would say Barbini but my thoughts are often off with the pixies.

Hi there:
I have tried the best I can to get a shot of the color. 

It is red, but you can see like a Gold pearlized color in it......like Red and small melted gold foil (???) or Gold Dust were mixed together.  The Bright  :sun: I hope helped to show it.  Also here is a pic of the base....finally  :spls2:

What is this called?  Any special name to it?

** Note:  (( The Rooster I also posted before, also has this same Red/Gold in it too.))
Title: Re: Glass Swan- Inside Pearlized Satin Red on Swirled Base
Post by: ardy on September 22, 2010, 11:24:19 PM
Hi Again, Saw this yesterday and again not the same as yours but this guy seems to be knowledgeable. He runs a great shop with lovely glass and he claims it is Barbine or Seguso and refers to his piece as 'double sommerso'.

http://www.modernistglass.com/glasspieces/view/2811