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Title: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: RAY on January 09, 2012, 06:35:49 PM

got this one today via ebay, just wondering if it was a run of the mill vase or an experimental one? , it measures 7" high, with an uncased paperweight pushed into the base, it has a anealing crack around one side where the glass meets the paperweight on the base but can not been seen unless turned over

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: scavo on January 09, 2012, 07:27:15 PM

Hi Ray,
I have 2 pieces that if put together could be from the same family as yours?
See the thread here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,42939.msg239152.html#msg239152
OK, mine is controlled bubble and yours is millefiori but nevertheless, it is a 'paperweight' in the base of a vase
 and another that has a similar white and clear random pattern in the body of the vase.
I'll photograph it and put a request for ID. I have a hunch it is Polish.

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 09, 2012, 07:37:53 PM

Ray knows his paperweight canes, so if he says Whitefriars... Yours is completely different Scavo.

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: scavo on January 09, 2012, 07:42:04 PM

ok.

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: chriscooper on January 11, 2012, 10:55:28 PM

Hi Ray, replying with a little trepidation, firstly the vase, not one I recognise or  would associate with Whitefriars, and  not a pattern  I  recognise either? secondly  the canes, not really my thing paperweights and after the above comment [Ray knows his paperweight canes so if he says Whitefriars.....] I fear you probably know a little more about them than I do  :-[ hence the hesitation in replying, my instinct says no but maybe  a clearer photo of the canes from  a better angle may  help?

Chris :sun:

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: RAY on January 12, 2012, 04:50:57 PM

here you go Chris

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: johnphilip on January 13, 2012, 08:58:47 AM

When Ray Annenberg comes over i will show him he will probably know for sure , i know they did play around a bit with the white enamel as on your vase .

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: chriscooper on January 13, 2012, 08:22:24 PM

Would be great to get the opinion of Ray, John, I don't know nearly enough to give a positive no, not something I  recognise from the later weights though. Would it not be better in the paperweight section if that's allowed maybe someone in there may recognise the style?

Chris :sun:

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: KevinH on January 16, 2012, 01:25:54 AM

Moved temporarily to this forum for further input.

Anyone recognise the canes as definite Whitefriars? And maybe the period?

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: alexander on January 16, 2012, 09:12:24 AM

I think "Old English" and possibly Richardsons judging by the canes. Fairly typical canes and colors for "OE"


I'm sure Alan can be more definite.

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: jamalpa36 on January 16, 2012, 09:22:50 AM

Hi All

My thoughts are Walsh Walsh for the canes and not Whitefriars.

Roy

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: jamalpa36 on January 16, 2012, 09:32:27 AM

Hi All

Having just checked my Walsh Walsh Glasses I am even more sure Walsh Walsh/Arculas.

Roy

Title: Re: whitefriars experimental paperweight vase
Post by: RAY on January 16, 2012, 04:53:11 PM

thanks all , how were the bases finished on walsh walsh /arculas weight as this one has the ground out hollow polished pontil