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Title: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: adam20 on April 21, 2012, 12:14:13 PM
Bowl with red to outer fading clear to centre - polished foot - controlled bubbles 'bullicante' - Murano but which factory - I have had similar with Seguso labels on them.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: johnphilip on April 21, 2012, 03:29:29 PM
Hi Adam i thought Bullicante was tiny even bubbles in neat rows close packed . I am not sure that is bullicante , what say others ?
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: adam20 on April 21, 2012, 04:27:35 PM
The bubbles are controlled but as you say not bullicante. My mistake. I still think it is Murano?

Below, for comparison is one of my pieces which I think is bullicante - looking on eBay I see it is a common mistake, so many pieces attributed as such but most likely not.

http://www.glassfacts.info/indexb266.html?fid=142

Adam
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: Ivo on April 21, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
I think your oyster explosion is generic Murano; the little blue-cum-pink bullicante has a famous name - i have the same one but forgot the attribute.....
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: TxSilver on April 22, 2012, 04:30:29 AM
adam, you were right. The bowls are both bullicante. Alas, I don't know who did either one. Ashtrays can be tough.
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: langhaugh on April 22, 2012, 06:22:35 AM
Anita, is it still bullicante when the bubble of glass is created by a means other than piercing the gather with spikes, either in a pineapple mould or on a flat bed of spikes on the marver?  There was a discussion some time ago and how bubbles could be produced by introducing small peas of glass into the gather. When the pea melted, it left a bubble behind.  Murano used this technique for some of the bigger bubbles and it looks as if if this ashtray might have used that technique as well. That said, it's definitely Murano and definitely bubbles. Anyone on Murano could have made it, though.

David

Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: johnphilip on April 22, 2012, 08:52:29 AM
Obviously two schools of thought i was thinking along the same lines as David and pretty sure i read it somewhere . I always keep an open mind as new information comes along all the time ... hence  what say others .
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: TxSilver on April 22, 2012, 12:27:55 PM
David & jp, it is a good question. I have to admit that I have a looser understanding of the term to mean small bubbles that are introduced in a contolled pattern, which the ashtray has. I do not know if bullicante has to be made using a form or if it can be achieved in other ways and still be called bullicante. If something has small bubbles made without a form, would we simply call it a bolle?
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: TxSilver on April 22, 2012, 12:33:58 PM
I just checked the Losch's site for a bolle and saw the technique was also described as using a metal form to introduce bubbles. www.the-loschs.com/ittec.html The examples they show have loose bubbles, so I guess the appearance of the bubbles depends on the metal form that was used and the follow-up processing of the glass. I don't know. I have never really seen a satisfactory definition of bullicante that differs from a bolle, so I'll have to leave this one to the glass makers.  :)
Title: Re: Murano Bullicante Bowl
Post by: langhaugh on April 22, 2012, 07:37:04 PM
The Barovier and Toso dictionary has bullicante as a synonym for bolle, so they would seem to be the same.  It does looks this ashtray was made with spikes, although they don't look that regular.  So it would be bullicante (or bolle). It's a  common design; here's one I have.

Just for interest sake I've included a picture of a Murano ashtray where I don't think the bubbles come from spikes.

David