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Title: Help please :)
Post by: TaniaD on December 10, 2005, 04:36:25 PM
I have recently inhereted a heap of Glass figurines
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3637_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3637_resize.JPG)

Three of these have a Pirelli label on them
Two Identical Rhinos http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3600_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3600_resize.JPG)
and a Crab
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3602_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3602_resize.JPG)
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3604_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3604_resize.JPG)

I have been reading a few of the threads here on the message board, and you seem to be saying that most Pirelli has three colours in the eyes, these dont have three colour eyes, just white with a black center, I was wondering if some of the other figurines I have could also be Pirelli, without labels.
Here are a few
Dog with yellow Ears
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3608_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3608_resize.JPG)
Duck with Santa Hat
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3610_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3610_resize.JPG)
Fish on stand
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3613_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3613_resize.JPG)
Dog with Black Ears
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3615_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3615_resize.JPG)
Cat
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3618_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3618_resize.JPG)
Rabbit with carrot
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3619_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3619_resize.JPG)
Giraffe
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3623_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3623_resize.JPG)
Elephant
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3626_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3626_resize.JPG)
Dragon
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3628_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3628_resize.JPG)
Owl
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3630_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3630_resize.JPG)
Pair of Peacocks
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3633_resize.JPG (http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/chilli@westnet.com.au/glass/IMG_3633_resize.JPG)
Could you please tell me if there is a possibility of these being pirelli as well?

thanks heaps for your help
Tania


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Title: Help please :)
Post by: Frank on December 10, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
Hi

I started gathering these for the catalogues a couple of years ago and only took labelled ones, the 3 coloured eye is a common feature and seems to be a good pointer to Pirelli, as does the use of 'bun' feet and single colour sections. But these are only the first common pointers and the only way of really identifying them is by matching to a labelled example.
http://www.ysartglass.com/Indexcat04.htm

Based on that:

Dachsund with yellow ears is Pirelli (Labelled example known)
Duck/goose with Santa hat is possible (wings/tail/humour)
Fish stick :) possible (Tips/colour use/humour)
Dog black ears possible but instinct is no.
Cat possible (feet/compare to catalogue)
Rabbit with carrots possible but I am dubious
Giraffe no opinion
Elephant (feet look Pirelli but ears not and is very different from thoose in cat - but so what! It is still a possible)
Dragon - Unlikely due to textured features
Owl is Pirelli (Eyes/feet/humour/style)
Peacocks maybe

Of course apart from the Dachsund and Owl these are very much guesses based on too small a sample of experience. Can I use your labelled pics for the catalogues please - ideally a front and a profile view... full credit of course.

Great collection. Pirelli do well on eBay these days so if you intend to sell do let us know - post a link in the market forum. If you intend to join the small but growing group of collectors for these, welcome on board.
Title: Help please :)
Post by: TaniaD on December 11, 2005, 03:28:20 AM
thanks Frank for you help identifying the animals .. We are still undecided as to whether we are going to sell them or keep them
in your opinion How much do you think they would fetch at auction? are they going to increase in value?


You certainly can have pictures of the labeled figures. I will take some better pics of them  for you later today :) Do I just put a link here or send them somewhere ?

Thanks again
Tania
Title: Help please :)
Post by: Frank on December 11, 2005, 02:43:04 PM
Hi Tania,

You can email them to me using the email button at the bottom frame of this message.

Some Pirelli are going for remarkable prices, as you may have noticed me remarking in this forum but there is generally little logic to this - it is just collectors competing but only a few seem to be willing to pay so high.

Generally they sell better than the average for lampworked pieces because they are indentifiable. I have paid as little as 1 pound for a piece and as much as 15 for normal run of the mill pieces. More for unusual or species that are popular for theme collectors. Guinness ones fetch the most but only because of the guinness connection. Figures and cartoon characters do better than animals and dogs and elephants are by far the most common. The more fragile will also do better on the assumption that less survive. But ultimately a higher price is because more than one person is eager to own a particular piece. As the catalogue expands, so interest will grow and prices will develop a more predictable pattern.