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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: Hourglass on September 29, 2010, 05:15:06 PM
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Seeking more knowledge as to wheather these types of paperweights are collectable in the general scheme of things. I veiw these as interesting in their own right as they would have been commissioned by the individual or Company and I have started to pick up a few examples myself. I have one with the 'logo and the name 'Thermomax', it is a Caithness weight which I have attempted to research and date. The Company is primarily a solar energy collector equipment manufacturer in Bognor. I have contacted the Company to see what I could find out about this weight but never got a reply.
This weight, 'Barclays Technology Services', also Caithness, speaks for itself.
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In the general scheme of things, almost anything is collectable. But the categorisation of "collectable" within the "antiques and collectables" market might imply to some folk that "collectable" means "it's worth something in monetary terms".
Many paperweight collectors have examples of advertising and promotional weights as part of their overall collection. Some collectors focus on advertising and promotional weights. But there is very little in literature covering this category.
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I do buy advertising weights, but not the more modern ones. I tend to concentrate on the very early 19th century ones, but also look for unusual ones up to c.1970. Surprising the amount of diversity there is, with respect to shape, size, decoration, etc.
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Caithness had a fair number of "Blanks" for that purpose, many with an oblique front facet for whatever design was wanted: I had made one (a "one off" ;)) for myself - obviously larger orders were also welcome. As a result the number of such weights will be close to endless. Some seem to have been designed especially for the commissioning company (I mean the weight itself) - the one for Harper Collins (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&category_id=21&product_id=1136&Itemid=6) - with the base engraved, rather than a front facet - being a very nice example ... IMHO "collectable" even if you have no interest in Harper Collins whatsoever.
These editions do not show up in the Charlton book, nor in any sales brochures - for an obvious reason, they could not be bought from Caithness. Nevertheless we are trying to include a few nice examples in the online catalogue on Scotlandsglass. In other words - if you could let me have high resolution images of your Thermomax and Barclays weights (preferentially against uniform white background, and views from several angles), these would be most welcome.
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What types David? Here I come across loads of advertising weights that are a basic clear thick oval or square of glass both flat and convex surface with a printed paper or tinted colour picture print stuck under the bottom and several clear glass impressed types as well. The type I go for are either engraved more modern or with the 'ad' as an inclusion, I'm afraid that the others don't really float my boat.
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Caithness had a fair number of "Blanks" for that purpose, many with an oblique front facet for whatever design was wanted: I had made one (a "one off" ;)) for myself - obviously larger orders were also welcome. As a result the number of such weights will be close to endless. Some seem to have been designed especially for the commissioning company (I mean the weight itself) - the one for Harper Collins (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&category_id=21&product_id=1136&Itemid=6) - with the base engraved, rather than a front facet - being a very nice example ... IMHO "collectable" even if you have no interest in Harper Collins whatsoever.
These editions do not show up in the Charlton book, nor in any sales brochures - for an obvious reason, they could not be bought from Caithness. Nevertheless we are trying to include a few nice examples in the online catalogue on Scotlandsglass. In other words - if you could let me have high resolution images of your Thermomax and Barclays weights (preferentially against uniform white background, and views from several angles), these would be most welcome.
Wuff.
I think our paths may have crossed before in the past, does the name Wolf mean anything to you? If so then I believe I sent you some images of the 'Thermomax' weight around 12 or so months ago but I will dig it out, it's about 50 weights deep but I'll find it. Perhaps you would in the meantime PM me your email address so that I can send you over the required images. By the way, have not got the Barclays one yet.
Edit. Wuff, you are the man I'm thinking of as I have just checked your email address. Look in your pictures, you may still have the images.
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What types David?
Any sort really: rectangular with printed decoration sometimes over-painted in white - bought one the other day in the original carton for the Wellington Tank Co. in Belfast -also circular, oval, with printed or acid-etched decoration. I don't think I have any with paper backing, but do have one with a thin metal backing that was probably printed onto. One the interesting parts is dating them: often by tracing the company back and its likely ranges of operation, the address, or by any telephone number mentioned (or not, which may mean it's very old).
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Wuff.
I think our paths may have crossed before in the past, does the name Wolf mean anything to you? If so then I believe I sent you some images of the 'Thermomax' weight around 12 or so months ago but I will dig it out, it's about 50 weights deep but I'll find it. Perhaps you would in the meantime PM me your email address so that I can send you over the required images. By the way, have not got the Barclays one yet.
Edit. Wuff, you are the man I'm thinking of as I have just checked your email address. Look in your pictures, you may still have the images.
Hi Tim,
I knew I had heard about the Thermomax weight before - just couldn't find it - now I know why: I was looking for a Caithness weight - but this one was Selkirk - in a different folder ;-).
Sorry for that !
Of course, the images are still safely on my hard disk - but Selkirk has to wait until Caithness is finished.
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Things are falling into place now Wuff. ;) I thought that I recognised you through your replies and when I looked at your location, strange how things turn out!
Yes you're right, I've just dug out the Thermomax weight and it is a Selkirk, engraved on the base and also engraved with the year, 1991. It also still carries the gold label in the polished sunken base centre. I've taken some more pics of it just in case you could not find or retrieve those I sent to you. It's a nice weight, are you going to post a pic of it or me?
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It's a nice weight, are you going to post a pic of it for me?
Sure :or:
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Thank you Wuff for putting up the pictures, I knew they were decent ones, that's why I asked you to in a round about way, unfortunateley I lost the originals from my last computer when it crashed and died.
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The Barcleys Blue arrived today. In it's Caithness box, it has no engraving on the base of this weight but on the bottom of the box is C2/96. Looking side on the weight is clear in the front and the blue is towards the rear. Very difficult to take a good picture of it but here it is.
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I have a few Caithness advertising weights picked up quite a while ago when i first found them interesting , but i am selling them now on ebay i listed the first a couple of days ago Stewarts cream of the Barley i think thats a good SCOTCH
I will be listing a few more in the next three weeks , sorry if its in the wrong section , if so one of our very sweet mods can change it . i was just responding to the subject . I plead insanity . :rah: :fr:
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I will be listing a few more in the next three weeks, sorry if its in the wrong section, ...
Right section, for me at least >:D!
I had noticed your auction, and was going to ask for your permission to use your images for our Caithness catalogue on ScotlandsGlass (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=159&Itemid=51) - would be even better, if you could mail me the higher resolution original images.
Your help would be appreciated!
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Hi Wolf any member is welcome to use any of my glass photos , but i am not very good at modern technology post 1900s
if any members live near Harrow they are welcome to come round and help me ,i have some very interesting
Scottish glass .
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Here is my latest acquisition of an advertising weight. I thought it was interesting considering the story behind the product. A drug that was supposed to alleviate aches and pains and arthritic conditions and although doing what it said on the tin, in actual fact was later to be found to have rather serious side affects and subsequently withdrawn and banned from use. You can read all about this product if you google the name. Anyway, I thought this made this weight the more interesting. Very difficult to photograph, it is a 3" sphere with the name engraved three times around the top with 5 engraved figures around it in various 'action' poses. The small flat base is also etched across it in small letters with the name backwards when you turn it up but when looking directly down on top of the weight the name appears the correct way round and magnified to the full width of the weight. There is no manufacturers mark.
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Hi Wolf any member is welcome to use any of my glass photos ... if any members live near Harrow they are welcome to come round and help me ,i have some very interesting Scottish glass .
Ooohhh Scotland's Glass would love to hear from someone living near Harrow :sc: