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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Scandinavian Glass => Topic started by: GlassAddict99 on May 02, 2008, 10:54:07 AM
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As advised by one of the members, i've split my original discussion into individual discussions for each item. Hopefully you can help identify this piece:
A 28 cms tall red cased vase, i think it might be riihimaki - can anyone confirm this?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-9919
TIA :)
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I've just spotted my vase, in the quite amazing collection by Robert1960, so on that basis (although mine is red), i'll assume it is Riihimaki. i've only got 15 vases in my collection - but you've certainly set something to aspire to Robert!
Ta,
M
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I wonder whether this vase was confirmed as Riihimaki, Riihimaen Lasi Oy? and if so does anyone know who the designer is please? I have looked through Designlasi and couldn't find this shape and it is a bit different to my others by Tamara Aladin. The rim is ground and polished and is quite a bit thicker. The colour is standard throughout the vase it's just the photo which makes it appear to get darker nearer the top.
many thanks in advance.
m
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Ah I think I have found the picture of Robert's most amazing collection :mrgreen:
and I believe this vase is top left hand. Thanks Robert for posting your fabulous pictures.
Hope the link works.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,20911.msg118212.html#msg118212
m
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Hello!
You're very welcome :D
I must get round to photographing more of it..
This is interesting.. all 3 sizes made of the 1472 20/25/30cm
and another pic of the 1471 and 1476
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Lovely! I particularly like the shape of the 1472 and the differences between the taller and shorter.
Do you know who my vase was designed by please? Was it Tamara Aladin? and is there normally a variance in the rim finish of the vases, with some being fire polished and others being ground and polished?
many thanks
m
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I should think almost certainly Tamara Aladin !
Most rims are flat ground, other than a few lipped that are fire worked (the Sun vases for example)
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Thank you Robert :)
That puts into query two other vases I have then which I thought were Riihimaen Lasi Oy vases (export?) but both of which have fire polished rims. They are thinner walled than this one as well.
I might need to do some more searching.
Many thanks
m
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I've only had two Riihimaen Lasi Oy vases and they both had fire polished rims...
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Fire polished rims are unusual on the majority of the vases from Riihimaki.
John
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Flyingfree
Do you have pictures of the other ones you own with fire polished rims ?
I only own three, as far as I can see.. one is the largest Aurinkopullo, the others a Pagoda and a Tornado.
I believe the Rulla also has a firepolished rim, but unfortunately I don't own one :(
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I hope these links work, but here are both of them. Many thanks.
m
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,30876.msg167334.html#msg167334
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,30874.msg167332.html#msg167332
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Hi
Surely they're ground tops?
I thought a fire polished top is very rounded, much more 'organic' ?
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I'm sure you are right and my experience and knowledge is very limited so I
am probably confused!
I do have Scandinavian vases where I am certain they have a ground and polished rim (one being an Alvar Aalto savoy vase for example and another example being the one I first posted in this link) and then I have some Aseda vases and these two that I assumed were fire polished because of what they look like. But looking again perhaps I have thought that because they are so much thinner walled than the others and so they don't 'look' ground flat and polished to me I'll take some comparison pics later and post them so I can understand better - my apologies if I have confused anyone :-[
m
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I have one of those in your picture of three shelves of green vases, bottom shelf sixth from right. That has a rim that I would say has been ground and then fire polished. It is flat but has no edges.
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This is the only Riihimaki vase I have had out of around fifty or so which had a fire polished rim: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,33243.msg181155.html#msg181155
The others all had rims which were ground flat and polished, this one had a rim that was semicircular in cross section and was obviously different from the rest.
John
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Yes, the Solmuke, and in fact a fair few that possess a name rather than a number, are more likely to have fire worked rims, along with the ringed base ?
(but like the Whitefriars pontil, this doesn't appear on everything by any means)
The 'export' vases, as lovely as they are, were fairly low-cost pieces and I shouldn't have thought warranted such a treatment, cost-wise ?
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This is how I understood fire polished to be?
see here where there is also an example of a ground and polished rim.
http://www.blenkoarchive.org/blenko_characteristics.htm
On this basis I am pretty certain that both my other Riihimaen Lasi Oy vases have a fire polished rim :-\
Would I be right in thinking that cold working the rim by grinding and then polishing would be more intensive and expensive than fire polishing it?
m
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I'm really not sure!
I always assumed furnace work was more skilled, and therefore more expensive, than machine work ?
I'm confused now :-\
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It's not furnace work. All it requires is a very hot gas flame. At Dartington Glass, they have a rotating gas-fired machine into which they pop the glasses after a preliminary grind to level the rims and that fire polishes the rims.
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I see !
Thanks for explaining :)
Robert