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Title: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: zidori on November 02, 2011, 11:09:39 AM

Am I correct in assuming that this is a P8 3 layer Aladdin's Cave?
Many thanks, in anticipation of reply.
Ronnie

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: SophieB on November 02, 2011, 03:08:13 PM

Hi Ronnie,

Yes, I think it is, but I can only see 2 layers myself (I don't think the ground counts). Still, it may be the angle of the picture - or my eyes  ;D

It is an early one too, I think.

SophieB

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: zidori on November 02, 2011, 05:05:46 PM

Thanks, Sophie. Your eyes are fine. I was counting the ground, so it must be a P7 2 layer.
Ronnie

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: ahremck on November 02, 2011, 11:27:08 PM

Not so sure.  Attached are three photos of my Aladdin's Cave.  Note (1) the larger, solid colour base & (2) The canes seem much clearer.

Ross

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: ahremck on November 02, 2011, 11:28:44 PM

Whoops!  Point (3) the base in mine has canes, yours has only got coloured glass.

Ross

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 03, 2011, 07:20:34 AM

I think it's a Perthshire PP8, I think the ground counts as a layer and the cane chips are fine. I have two without a whole cane slice between them but definitely cane chips.

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: SophieB on November 03, 2011, 09:56:28 AM

Hi Christine,

Thanks for this. I always thought the ground did not count!! Obviously, I have been in error for years about this!! ;)

Hi Ross,

Yours is indeed a Perthshire aladdin's cave, too but a later example. Hence the differences... In the later example, I had seen before there was a bit of a signature cane (i.e. with a 'p') in the mix of canes. I don't know whether it was intentional or not, but it was easier to ID (as the label had long gone...). 

Sophie

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 03, 2011, 10:07:37 AM

Well Kev said my base + single layer was a P7, but it might be wrong.

Title: Re: Perthshire Aladdin's Cave?
Post by: KevinH on November 03, 2011, 06:07:04 PM

All I really know is that Paul Ysart multi-layer Harlequin weights were:
- bubbles over single layer = Harlequin (implies single Harlequin)
- second layer with bubbles and "legs" reaching down to base layer = Double Harlequin
- third layer with bubbles and "legs" reaching down to second layer, whith "legs" down to base layer = Triple Harlequin

I have one example of what I call a "double-layer Aladdins Cave", and the base layer of canes are set immediately onto the dark coloured ground. So it looks like two layers but with the base layer consisting of both opaque "black" and cane bits.

The book on Perthshire Paperweights does not clearly show a profile view of any "Aladdins Cave" weight but talks about things like "two layers and a coloured ground". What that really means needs confirmation.