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Title: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 15, 2007, 02:37:51 PM
Don't you just love jumble sales. I was toddling off down the dual carriageway 11.15am on Saturday and there it was, on the side of the road, Jumble Sale St Thingami Church hall 11.00am. Can't remember the church name now. Next turning I was off up the road and to the sale.
When I entered the hall there they were right in front of me, 5 big beauties, and the vases were nice too.
I asked the price and I was told £5, I thought that's quite good but not great. The lady then said they are £1.50 each if you just wan't one. Then the penny dropped £5 was for them all. Wow! :o
I have the photo here, I know the first on left is Aseda, the two olive green I think are Riihimaki but I am not sure of the turquoise blue one in the centre and the red one on the right.
Can you help, once again, please.  ::) I have placed a photo on the Glass gallery but wasn't sure how to move it here, anyway here it is..
http://i12.tinypic.com/2ppkilv.jpg

Thanks,
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Della on January 15, 2007, 02:54:36 PM
The first vase is Aseda, Sweden, as you said. The fifth could be Aseda also, but could be Riihimaki too. They both made similar vases with little or no noticeable difference. I have noticed that Riihimaki pieces seem to weigh more and that the quality is a little better. I have read that the rims of Aseda vases are hot finished, whilst Riihimaki are polished. The second one is Riihimaki, as is the fourth. The middle one is just gorgeous. I can't be certain who made it, but have seen it listed as being Riihimaki.
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Max on January 15, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
What fab buys!  :o :D 

I've always thought the red vase shape was Riihimaki, but can't substantiate that - unusual (to me) in that red colourway actually.  Middle one is the occasionally called 'Rocket' vase, described as by Okkolin in a Millers guide - not sure about that claim either - but I'd say Riihimaki probably.  The green one next to the tall Aseda vase could be by Tamara Aladin; it's dinging a little bell in my head somewhere.  I tried looking at a fairly reliable website, but got bombed by dubious pop-ups, so I couldn't continue and book information on her is scarce.  Hope someone else can help.  :)

That's a jolly good collection of vases for the money anyway...congrats!

Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Pip on January 15, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
 :o Woweeee - the last time I went to a jumble sale it was all smelly sweaters and incomplete jigsaw puzzles, they're obviously a better quality jumble sale around your way Bryn!  Fab buys, I can't add anything new to what Della and Max have already said (and let's face it, what they don't know about Scandi glass isn't worth knowing).  Nice one.
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Della on January 15, 2007, 03:54:49 PM

Hi Max,
The second one, the first green one, is in Andy McConnel's book, shown on pg.11, but in red. He states that it is "reputedly designed by Tamara Aladin for Riihimaki c1970 20cm (7.25") tall." I haven't actually handled one of these.

Pip,
Thank you for your very kind compliment (she says, blushing from ear to ear  :-[ ), but I think that know a fair bit when it comes to Riihimaki glass too.
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Max on January 15, 2007, 03:56:31 PM
I know I shouldn't wibble on Bryns' thread, but Pip!  I don't know everything about Scandinavian glass, far from it!  Holy cramoley, I wish I did!  :)  Thanks for the thought though.  ;)

Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Max on January 15, 2007, 04:00:35 PM
Della said:
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The second one, the first green one, is in Andy McConnel's book, shown on pg.11, but in red. He states that it is "reputedly designed by Tamara Aladin for Riihimaki c1970 20cm (7.25") tall." I haven't actually handled one of these.

Aha!  That's where I'd seen it, I think it's on a website as Tamara Aladin somewhere too.  Well...according to Andy 'reputedly' Tamara Aladins'....

Nice team work going on here, cheers Della!  :D



Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 15, 2007, 04:45:04 PM
Thanks once again everyone for your superb assistance. I agree with you Della that the middle vase is fab both in shape and that stunning colour. I would have paid the full £1.50 for that alone, no mistake >:D. There was also a Poole pottery Aegean vase for 40p. I had that too, gave 50p and told the lady to keep the change, I'm no skinflint!  ;D
I find that if you can get to a Jumble sale within the first half hour since opening you can find some nice items. After that all is left is what Pip usually finds ;D. A lady friend of mine picked up a very flash 10" tall signed John Ditchfield vase at a local jumble sale for £1, and a nice little jumper  >:D.

Cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Anne on January 16, 2007, 12:54:43 AM
Tiina's Finnish Glass site gives the second left one as "Tuulikki" series by Tamara Aladdin (item no 25 on the glass page).

Edited to add: URL to Tiina's site removed after evidence of hosting malware download seen.
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Max on January 16, 2007, 07:19:25 AM
Tiina's Finnish Glass site gives the second left one as "Tuulikki" series by Tamara Aladdin (item no 25 on the glass page).

That's the one I got pop-up bombed at Anne!  Probably harmless (you'd know, not me  :() but one of them was some kind of drive cleaner thing that I just couldn't shake off.  She didn't use to have them on there, did she?
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Pat on January 16, 2007, 12:11:17 PM
Wish I could find things like that a jumble sale. Very very nice buys. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Anne on January 16, 2007, 04:16:25 PM
That's the one I got pop-up bombed at Anne!  Probably harmless (you'd know, not me  :() but one of them was some kind of drive cleaner thing that I just couldn't shake off.  She didn't use to have them on there, did she?

Hi Max,  OooooerrrrI didn't see those as I run under Linux with javascripts off by default, but you are right, there is something nasty there. Allowing the scripts to run I find it's a link to Winfixer which is a bad news type of program (but harmless to my Linux box), so I'll remove the active link from my and your replies above and email Tiina to let her know there's a problem with her hosting. She's probably totally unaware of it.  :-\
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Pinkspoons on January 16, 2007, 04:44:41 PM
The pop-ups have been there for a couple of months or more - I stopped refering to the site when I first encountered them.  >:(
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 16, 2007, 07:37:22 PM
Hi Pat,
You really have to get there virtually as the doors open as the bargains always disappear early. In saying that you still have a chance with some pieces of glass. Everyone seems to be selling on Ebay these days so the named ceramic items are snapped up in a flash.  Then it's exactly as Pip discribed.
Did anyone see the Sun Sea and Bargains BBC TV programme yesterday all the way from Turin in Italy when a Whitefriars Cinnemon drunken bricklayer vase was snapped up in a flea market for just 25 euros and then sold back in the UK for £250. Brilliant!  8)
Back to the matter in hand, isn't the aforementioned Tiina's website the same as listed under Scandinavian on the Glassoholic website? I assume it is so we had better give that a wide berth too.
Cheers,
Bryn(not Brian)

Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Max on January 16, 2007, 08:11:45 PM
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Did anyone see the Sun Sea and Bargains BBC TV programme yesterday all the way from Turin in Italy when a Whitefriars Cinnemon drunken bricklayer vase was snapped up in a flea market for just 25 euros and then sold back in the UK for £250. Brilliant! 

Bryn - the bricklayer buyer was Pinky!  See the thread on www.whitefriars.com forum, I thought she did brilliantly!   :D
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Pip on January 16, 2007, 08:36:38 PM
Bryn - the bricklayer buyer was Pinky!  See the thread on www.whitefriars.com forum, I thought she did brilliantly!   :D

Yep I saw her too Max - I thought she was extremely generous!  That's got to be a first though -Mark Franks buying something decent and actually knowing what it was  :P!
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Anne on January 16, 2007, 09:13:02 PM
Back to the matter in hand, isn't the aforementioned Tiina's website the same as listed under Scandinavian on the Glassoholic website? I assume it is so we had better give that a wide berth too.
Cheers,
Bryn(not Brian)

Hi Bryn, yes Tiina was listed on Glasslinks but it's now been removed until I am certain the site is clean again. Glasslinks itself *is* clean - it's on my server and I know it intimately!   ;D
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 16, 2007, 09:23:07 PM
Hey yes, Pinky really knows her Whitefriars and the export stamp would automatically make it more desirable. She was generous but she did get an item I would love to own but you know me , I would have to lean more towards the 25 euros price than the £250. I'm a poor retired man you know. >:D 

Bryn (not Brian)

 
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Cathy B on January 18, 2007, 03:07:00 PM
Ooh, is this your middle one:

http://www.glasgaleriezindel.eu/album2/image.php?cat_id=13&img=1169065535

There's an attribution to A. Okkolin, Riihimäen Lasi, Circa 1970, and it's apparently known as a Chimney Vase.
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: josordoni on January 18, 2007, 07:50:14 PM
Bryn - the bricklayer buyer was Pinky!  See the thread on www.whitefriars.com forum, I thought she did brilliantly!   :D

Yep I saw her too Max - I thought she was extremely generous!  That's got to be a first though -Mark Franks buying something decent and actually knowing what it was  :P!

I'm surprised he didn't think it was Murano...

Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 18, 2007, 10:46:17 PM
Hi Cathy,
It took  me a little while to find it but find it I did and it certainly seems to be my vase. Thanks a bunch.
Only the red one now and we are there!
Fill me in on the Mark Franks bit, are you saying he can't tell his Alsterfors from his Elma's.  ??? ;D ;D

Cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Cathy B on January 18, 2007, 10:56:12 PM
Needs confirmation from someone that it's the same vase, Bryn. Max and Pip, what do you think - is this Bryn's middle vase?

A better link is http://www.glasgaleriezindel.eu
Then choose Collections, Finland, and it's the tenth row, last image.

Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 18, 2007, 11:15:57 PM
Hi Cathy,
I really think it is, only difference, of course, is the shade, not that that matters. That seems a very good site for distinguishing previously debatable pieces as well. Nice one. I think I'll put that on my favourites list.
Thanks a lot.

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Riihimaki or not Riihimaki that is the question.
Post by: Pip on January 18, 2007, 11:37:41 PM
Fill me in on the Mark Franks bit, are you saying he can't tell his Alsterfors from his Elma's.  ??? ;D ;D

All glass is usually either WF or Murano and on a recent programme he described a piece of LLadro porcelain as being from Italy  ::)  And in answer to Cathy, yes I'd say Bryn's vase was an Aimo Okkolin (probably late 1970's).