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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: SpongeBob on November 06, 2006, 07:33:40 AM
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Hi all,
I have two pieces that I cannot find ANYWHERE. I have noticed that you guys really know your glass and I just want to say that this forum looks like a keeper! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If the picts dont show up just copy the address, you guys know the drill.:)
First off there is this vase. Green in color, stands 14 1/2 inches tall and 4 inches across. I took a picture of the bottom because it shows a pontiel mark. (maybe aid in the year made). Also you can see the bunch of glass that was left in the bottom. This and the fact that it is 1/4 in thick everywhere else tops this bad boy out at about 5-6 pounds.
Second is a sherbet purple in color and lots of flaws in the glass itself, such as bubbles, casting or press marks. Also I don't think that ANY of the sherbets have their bowls on right.... kind of tilted.
http://www.sugardog.com/~mustard/vase1a.jpg
http://www.sugardog.com/~mustard/vase1.jpg
http://www.sugardog.com/~mustard/vase3.jpg
http://www.sugardog.com/~mustard/depglass5.jpg
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the sherbet is just that - a sherbet. I have neither any clue not any curiosity as to the maker.
The olive coloured bottle vase is contemporary, loosely based on Otto Brauer's Gulvase from 1962 - but executed in a heavy manner either in India or in Poland. The weight of the thing is a giveaway, as is the pontil treatment ("it will not scratch your table but we could not bother to grind it out properly"). I think they used to be in the Ikea range - not now 100% sure of that.
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Hello.
Welcome to the board.
Ikea / Habitat / or a similar homeware store would be my guess for the green bottle vase too.
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First off there is this vase. Green in color, stands 14 1/2 inches tall and 4 inches across. I took a picture of the bottom because it shows a pontiel mark. (maybe aid in the year made). Also you can see the bunch of glass that was left in the bottom. This and the fact that it is 1/4 in thick everywhere else tops this bad boy out at about 5-6 pounds.
Second is a sherbet purple in color and lots of flaws in the glass itself, such as bubbles, casting or press marks. Also I don't think that ANY of the sherbets have their bowls on right.... kind of tilted.
Hi SB, I wouldn't be presumptious enough to think I could offer any more info than either Ivo or Nic who both know their stuff - all I wanted to say was with regard to the sherbet bowls. My experience is with dishes/bowls like these is that unless they're very distinctive looking or obviously good quality generally speaking they could have been manufactured by anyone - especially if, like you say, they've got lots of bubbles, casting and press marks and the bowls are on wonky - it would indicate a fairly crude manufacture. If you're wanting to know more about them in order to sell them on, my personal opinion is that you'd perhaps be better off concentrating on describing them clearly, talking about their usefulness and selling them that way rather than trying to pinpoint a manufacturer. I hope that helps :-)
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I would guess that the sherberts date to the first half of the last century (20th) judging by their quality, mould marks and sun purpling
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I'd second that, Christine. Perhaps even EAPG, especially if SpongeBob is in the US.
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I would guess that the sherberts date to the first half of the last century (20th) judging by their quality, mould marks and sun purpling
Funnily enough, I immediately thought it looked like sun purpling, but I thought it was too much of a coincidence, given our recent conversation on here. If they are sun purpled, might they have a higher value to people that collect such items? Just a thought.
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I'd second that, Christine. Perhaps even EAPG, especially if SpongeBob is in the US.
Hi all,
Thank you for the very quick responses ALL OF YOU. This is why, just by reading posts, I stated 'this forum is a keeper'.
I just had a quick query as to what is EAPG. I know it's probably something that all glass people know, but ask me anything about heating. air conditioning and refrigeration and I will light up your life...:). Glass - well Im about in third grade. And yes Cathy, I am in the US, abut right in around the Great Lakes area. Thanks again
SongeBob
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EAPG = Early American Pattern Glass.
There's info on it here: http://www.eapglass.com/
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I would guess that the sherberts date to the first half of the last century (20th) judging by their quality, mould marks and sun purpling
Funnily enough, I immediately thought it looked like sun purpling, but I thought it was too much of a coincidence, given our recent conversation on here. If they are sun purpled, might they have a higher value to people that collect such items? Just a thought.
Possibly, but I'm not sure I'd be encouraging it. Life's confusing enough as it is without dodgy dealers altering their wares. :shock:
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I am sometimes a bit scared to 'voice' my humble opinion in the presence of such knowledge as is on this board but I'm feeling a bit adventurous so I will try not to confuse but throw another line as to the age rather than the maker.
The sherbet things if I had picked them up in the UK I would have said late 19th century because of the bubbles and inclusions and the style as to the Ikea Habitat clue last time I was in Ikea or Habitat their glass was always very well finished off not a bit chunky pontil like at all. Have they slipped in their quality?
Now you can shoot me down in flames :)
Cheers
Doris
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You could be right about the sherberts but the sun purpling is less of a clue to age in sunnier climes and I always feels that a lot of the just pre and post WW2 stuff is of dubious quality.
I also tend to agree with you about Ikea/Habitat quality, Poundland might be nearer the mark. I suspect Ivo means the sort of stuff that's stacked high at the wholesaler for every Tom, Dick and Harry Gifte Shoppe
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Yes Christine Ikea and the like are far too professional to allow obvious faulted goods on their shelves. I am of the opinion that their glass works are very professional and nice items to boot having being fooled to thinking I was buying a quite substantial piece of Swedish glass once only to find it was Ikea then taking a step back and then thinking------- well I like it so there!
Perhaps it is this that is pushing me towards the older glass which usually has so many faults that no-one would want to copy that.
Even that is not true because I tend to like all glass and finding out the history or the maker is part of the fun don't you think?
Cheers
Doris