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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: goyjus on October 04, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
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Any ideas on the attached muchly appreciated...
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Looks neither - but it is old. Could be British (Nailsea? Sunderland?) or French/ Belgian (Liège). Could also be Spanish (La Granja, Gordiola) or Portugese. I suggest you just wait for all the suggestions which it isn't and then strike them off your list as you go. Congrats on a fine piece.
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Thanks Ivo. Great leads. Will follow up and post again if I find out any more. Much appreciated!
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It would help (not much ;D probably) to also know the size and weight please.
Thanks
m
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No problem. It weighs 607 grams and stands 8.25in/21cms tall and 6.5in/16.5cms across the top.
Not sure if this helps - or is relevant - but it does rock ever so slightly - and if it's unclear from the picture of the base, there are four rough marks in a square around the centre.
Any further info very gratefully received...
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I've no idea about the marks but someone might do...possibly to do with where it was removed from a gadget? or what is left of the pontil mark ? It might indicate a possible age for it as well as the way the handles are applied. It's very lovely, have you checked it under a blacklight? I don't think it will glow green but it might.
m
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Ok, thanks. I haven't checked it under black light - will have to do so...
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http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7494913
Just to show because it's often quite hard to find pics of items like this, this is attributed to La Granja (I'm afraid I have no idea whether or not it is). It's enamelled not spatter glass but the base blank looks similar.
m
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and I found this cup and saucer, same base glass, same handle or very similar, enamelled not spatter, from the Corning id'd as Germany 1825-1850.
http://www.cmog.org/artwork/cup-and-saucer-11?sm_technique=polishing%7Cgilding&goto=node/51200&filter=%22bundle%3Aartwork%22&sort=bs_has_image%20desc%2Cscore%20desc%2Cbs_on_display%20desc&object=6
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http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/3465371
again I have no idea if this attribution is correct but these are attributed as Bayerische Wald, German glass c.1920 and have spatters on white base glass. Not the same type of spatter as yours, much less controlled, but perhaps that might be another region to be looking in for the source?
m
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Wow. You've been busy. Much appreciated! Haven't managed to get very far with it myself. Will keep trying though...
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Getting close.
Here is a jug which is in the Gordiola museum in Mallorca. The same display is also full of threaded pieces, so I think it has been nailed. No idea of when it was made - probably in the early days of the 20th century.
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that's great Ivo.
As a matter of interest, I had been wondering about the foot on Goyjus' vase, I had been wondering if it were older (early 19thc) , would it not have a wider foot and folded rim?
m
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Ivo - this is great. Looks like a match to me. Thanks so much for posting. I wasn't really getting anywhere. Just a vague response from an auction house about it being end-of-day glass..............
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As a matter of interest, I had been wondering about the foot on Goyjus' vase, I had been wondering if it were older (early 19thc) , would it not have a wider foot and folded rim?
Not necessarily - it all depends on the techniques available to the glass maker. Not all of them had that particular skill. Add a foot and trim it nicely to the result is stable would be sufficient for many. Folded foot to me suggests a specialised finisher in the team.
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Thank you Ivo
m
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yes... thank you both for your contributions!