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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Scandinavian Glass => Topic started by: kerry on November 24, 2009, 01:32:18 PM
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Really like some help in identifying this - doesn't quite fit any of the Whitefriars patterns - so maybe its Scandi? :-\
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Probably wrong but I seem to remember seeing something similar by Kosta glass,Elis Bergh I think,please don't quote me,Keith
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Thanks so much Keith, Kerry.
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Keith:
Was the piece you saw by Ellis Bergh this colour? I'd expect an Ellis Bergh piece to be marked. I can't suggest an alternative, however.
Is the piece a solid grey? A bigger photo with a bit more exposure would help.
David
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Hi, the piece is cased, I will work on resizing the photo in about an hours time - bit tied up at moment - not real good with the tech stuff ::)
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Here are some better pics of the vase, I am working on getter some more better ones, will upload them as soon as they arrive. Trying to figure this one out is making my brain hurt! the vase weighs 1.9kg by the way.
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After doing a bit of research I think the vase might be Orrefors - any thoughts on who the designer is?
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It looks typically 50's/60's Scandinavian. What suggested Orrefors to you? I'm not disagreeing, necessarily, but again Orrefors, and the other main suspects, are usually marked, and the lobed effect is unusual for Orrefors. I'd try some of the companies who did the brownish colour like this and usually marked their products with just a label, such as Aseda, Smalandshyttan, Sea Glasbruk.
Holmegaard did lobed pieces, but I would have expected Nick or one of the other Holmegaard experts to have identified it if it were by them, and, again, it would be marked.
Good luck.
David
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Thanks David, I will do some research on the names you have given me - might learn a bit too while I am doing it - its great to have somewhere to start from.
This is a link to a vase of a very similar size and weight that is on eBay - it is Orrefors....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200260754480&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Cheers,
Kerry
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Kerry:
Thanks for passing that on and I do see the strong resemblance. Unfortunately, as with many eBay references, I'm not sure it's correct in its attribution. It's unmarked, also, I notice. I had a quick look through the Orrefors section in Swedish Glass Factories and I couldn't see this piece.
David
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As David suggests, eBay is probably one of the worst places to pick up your attributions - especially if the pieces are not marked, as is the case with the vase in the eBay auction.
And, yup, Holmegaard can be discounted too.
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David:
In regards to the Bergh piece it was a different colour if I remember right I was searching for optic ribbed vases,Eglund I think and came across the Bergh piece I'm afraid my 'data base consists of lots of bits of paper strewn all over my workstation covered in scribble so where I saw it I couldn't say,not well organised,sorry,Keith
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Goodness me this is such a hard one! I am looking at the sellers other piece too - crystal etched vase - definitely vintage Orrefors as I can find heaps of them on the net attributed to them - quite distinctive and easy to ID. She told me that she bought them from the same person together. A tenous link I know but a little link to a Swedish connection...She describes the vase as grey...she lives too far away for me to actually go and inspect the piece before I buy it. K.
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Kerry:
I've got a fair bit of Orrefors and it's all marked. Generally, I will buy unmarked pieces that I like but none have them have turned out be Orrefors. I think that the lobed vase well might be Swedish. In terms of buying the other piece, it might only be marked 'Of' and numbers. But, if you look at other threads on here, you'll find very nice engraved pieces that aren't marked and aren't Orrefors, particularly little birds. For me, it's if I like it, and how much I'm willing to pay for it. For example, I'd buy the lobed piece as I like the style and I haven't seen one like it before, but I'd limit my offer to the lower middle of my spending range.
Good luck.
David
PS Sorry Nic, I keep giving you a "k" at the end of your name.
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Thanks everyone so much for your help, I will buy it if the seller agrees on a reasonable price - it will be fun trying to discover its identity. I have attached a pic of the other vase I have assumed to be Orrefors, its quite a distinctive design so I think one pic will be enough, if not, let me kow - perhaps David or one of the other very helpful people on here could let me know for sure that it is -size is 15cmx11cm, crystal is very thick. I am thinking of buying both - but unfortunately the flint vase has quite a bit of scratching inside, shame, Kerry.
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Judging by the shape of the vase and the style of the engraving, I'd suggest Nils Landberg for Orrefors, early 1940's (the design, at least). I'd be very surprised it it wasn't marked, though.
David