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Title: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Anne on December 26, 2012, 05:22:13 PM
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/will-this-futuristic-tower-be-venices-first-skyscraper/8037

This looks very ambitious!
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 27, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
And as if it could end up sinking the whole city...

Architecturally, I've seen far worse.  :)  We're getting it here in Dundee.

This is our new pigeon and seagull nesting site.
http://vandaatdundee.com/your-future/the-winner-is/

But they've already decided to move it inland.
You can see how disabled-friendly the entrance hall isn't as the pics go on...
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Anne on December 27, 2012, 10:42:21 PM
Urrrgghhhhh, Sue, it looks like a derelict ship's hull, who thought that was a good idea?
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Carolyn Preston on December 28, 2012, 12:39:25 AM
Or a giant whale's tail.

Carolyn
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: KevinH on December 28, 2012, 01:12:43 AM
I wonder how many folk in Venice would prefer $2.6 billion to be spent on restoration of the city?

As for the Dundee project - wonderful. They really should put it back to the coast. It looks good for all sorts of birds. Maybe peregrine will find the uppermost levels very suitable. And herring gulls and lesser black-backed gulls may well take a liking to the rooftops. And there is so much space for kittiwakes and possibly gannet with guillemot nestling amongst them. At the lower levels, swifts and swallows and martins might find the recesses very comfortable. Oh, and all those wonderful covered ledges for the pigeons, too. In a few years, all the guano and other droppings will have created a marvellous variegated effect over the boring grey turning it into a sort of enormous slag glass effect. Brilliant. ;D
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 28, 2012, 10:22:56 AM
It's being kept on the coast, Kev. The orginal notion was that it was going to be over the river. The river Tay. The biggest river in the British Isles - at the point where it is most decidedly tidal. We've sailed along it backwards!

Give things a few years and it would be floating away on the rising seas.
I have not a clue who decided it would be suitable. I reckon a complete lack of good taste is the major qualification for those in charge of awarding building contracts here. I don't understand it at all.
Dundee and its environs are a very major centre of artistic merit.
Maybe they want something to contrast all the real talent with?

I do agree that saving and shoring up Venice as a whole would be a far better project.
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Carolyn Preston on December 29, 2012, 12:39:50 AM
OMG that's it. It's the great Tay whale! What came to sport and play and will be remembered for many a day! (With thanks to Mr. McGonagle)  ;)

Carolyn
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 29, 2012, 10:43:11 AM
 :o

Jings, crivens an' help ma boab, Carolyn!
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Ivo on December 29, 2012, 11:11:46 AM
Calm down, it will not happen. Italy is as broke as broke can be.
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Carolyn Preston on December 30, 2012, 12:14:57 AM
:o

Jings, crivens an' help ma boab, Carolyn!

Huh? :)

Carolyn
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 30, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
Sorry Carolyn - you quoted MacGonagle, so I quoted "Oor Wullie" from the famous Dundee cartoon strip in return - I thought, as you knew MacGonagle, you might be familiar with him.  :-[

Musical explanation here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Zef9XYzdU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oor_Wullie

We did watch the new Disney film, "Brave" the other night - and "Jings, crivens, help ma boab!" was used in it.
It's merely a mild expletative.
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Frank on December 30, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Dundee football supporters like it. Now doubt Italian football fans like their one too.  I don't  mind the Italian one and it is in a run down zone and will provides some jobs as well as lots of loan trading for the banks.  The Dundee winner is probably best of the final 6 and is at least adventurous... it looks like it could be floated if need be  8) and if Venice sinks the other one will give a marker in the lagoon for tourists. But how many of these adventurous designs get 'simplified' once the go ahead is given to non more than a nod to the original design?
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 30, 2012, 04:56:17 PM
The "final six" put to the good folk of Dundee to vote upon were all revolting.
They didn't choose the winner either.
The "vote" was ignored and "those that be without any taste" went ahead with the one they wanted in the first place.
They've changed its location to be onland already....

Building work is not proper employment.
It's done by transient incomers who follow where the work is, it's not permanent work, it's all contracts.
They may provide customers for B&Bs, I suppose - unless they're all staying in the usual ramshackle caravans.

The only work for local folk will be the usual sort of stuff.
Cleaners, bin-men, caterers.
And probably all part-time, under-minimum-wage-teenagers 'cos they're cheaper and easier to sack.

However, they may need rock-climbers to remove the guano.  ;D
Slight possibility of work for Michael when NCR pulls out and dumps him in the next few months?  8)

Frank, are you sayng the bootball supporters like the Dundee V&A? or that they like Oor Wullie?
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Carolyn Preston on December 30, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Sorry Carolyn - you quoted MacGonagle, so I quoted "Oor Wullie" from the famous Dundee cartoon strip in return - I thought, as you knew MacGonagle, you might be familiar with him.  :-[

Musical explanation here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Zef9XYzdU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oor_Wullie

We did watch the new Disney film, "Brave" the other night - and "Jings, crivens, help ma boab!" was used in it.
It's merely a mild expletative.


Well, I had definitely heard of Wee Wullie. Think Alastair has an annual or two aboot the hoose. But had not gotten into it enough to recognize jinks et al. Sent the song to Alastair, he'll enjoy it. And at least I know what mince and tatties are :D

Loved Brave! Wonderful story line and the characters are hysterical. We actually went to see it in a movie theatre as our anniversary "date".

Carolyn
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 31, 2012, 11:20:00 AM
The film was a giggle - but the historical references are a mess!
All the highland flings, games, and massed bagpipes are a touristy invention of Queen Victoria's.
There wasn't a Pibroch in earshot.  :'(
Thankfully, they didn't go a bundle on tartans (another Victorian invention) - and I was absolutely stunned and delighted to see they actually used some images of the truly beautiful Pictish carved standing stones! (circa 700AD and before).

It's Hogmanay today - Lang may yer lum reek!
(long may your chimney smoke)
Title: Re: Glass skyscraper proposal for Venice...
Post by: Carolyn Preston on January 01, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
Happy Hogmany to you as well. Trust me, I don't look to Hollywood for historical accuracy! ;)

Carolyn