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Title: Old red and white swirl
Post by: Roger H on May 16, 2012, 11:05:01 PM

Not quite sure what to think of this one, curious so I bought it.
     Not a bad swirl, the glass has many tiny bits inside, the break off reminded me of a studio piece in the UK but also has a feeling of old pre 1950s Murano to me. Diameter is 3.25 inches. Any thoughts on it.
          Regards Roger.

Title: Re: Old red and white swirl
Post by: w84it on May 17, 2012, 11:30:04 AM

Hello Roger.

Murano is a definite possibility.   But have you considered Charles V Ramsey, ex London Glassblowing Studio?   Its not unlike a swirl of his in my collection.   Colours are similar too.   Mind you, he normally signed his weights.

Keith

Title: Re: Old red and white swirl
Post by: KevinH on May 17, 2012, 10:33:41 PM

I have what I beleive is a Murano red and white swirl which uses filigrana for the white parts. Maybe not all Murano swirls use filigrana, but since it's part of what we could call the "Murano identity", I would raise a query on a Murano swirl without filigrana.

Anyone have one with a label?

Title: Re: Old red and white swirl
Post by: Roger H on May 18, 2012, 07:50:49 PM

Keith, how far back does Charles V Ramsey go because the  base usage and the impure glass batch seems to look 60 or more years old.
  Kevin, I do have a 1950s Murano weight and the profile is much higher domed I must say, this one is a tad flat on top? 
       Regards Roger

Title: Re: Old red and white swirl
Post by: w84it on May 19, 2012, 11:49:21 AM

Roger, Charles Ramsey worked from 1975 until he retired in I think 2008.   So if you are right about the age of the weight, that puts him out of the picture.

Keith

Title: Re: Old red and white swirl
Post by: Roger H on May 21, 2012, 07:35:38 PM

Thanks for the reply, its the amount of pot detritus in the glass batch that makes me think it could be pre 1950s.  I bought a 1920s Arculus recently and that has the same glass detritus characteristic which can be felt on the surface of the weight as well as seen in the glass composition.
         Regards Roger.