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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: flying free on November 22, 2011, 11:40:03 PM
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I suspect this is possibly 'modern' but does anyone have a clue from whence it came or have seen similar on the net etc please? and which way up should it be :-\ I've searched as many of the Polish glass sites as I can and some of the Chinese productions but not seen anything similar - the 'mottled' effect is not 'spatter' glass as I know it, it's a cloudy powdery type way it's been done, painterly rather than splotchy if you know what I mean?
Measures 10" or 25cm wide and is about 4 1/2" or 11.5cm tall. The rim (base or top?) is ground and polished very nicely done.
Thanks for any direction to look in :sun:
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Can't see the base?
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will try and find a better shot to show it :)
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shot of rim and base attached
thank you for looking
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Well the colour is applied with frit, i.e., powder. Splotches are more likely to to be chips.
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Thanks Christine :) it's a lovely effect - I prefer it to the splotches somehow, more subtle and delicate. It is a fantastic showy piece of glass because of the colour/decor and size.
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I don't know the shape - the colours and the way they're worked is a bit Caithnessy......
but mostly I'm clueless. :thup:
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Thanks Sue :) I hadn't thought of investigating closer to home so a good reminder to do so.
I had thought maybe Czech instead of Polish or Chinese, but I can't find anything similar in terms of colour or the use of powder rather than chips (although that could be down to my distinct lack of knowledge in technical terms to be honest)
It is a nice piece, very well finished, nothing shoddy about it. My instinct because of size and shape says contemporary mass produced but actually I haven't a clue. I did think it might be French modern, but only because the colour combination and painterly effect reminds me of some art deco pieces, so I don't actually think it is. There aren't many things in this double walled shape, though there are some new clear bowls. Other than that I haven't found much at all.
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Interesting fact - I examined this again tonight under a strong light. There is no wear at all on that cut rim and the rim has an arriss around it as well. So it has been cut polished and bevelled, but the interesting thing is that this bowl has been displayed curved side down with the cut rim up. Under a magnifying glass and strong light, not really visible on just looking because of the colour and mottled effect, there is a complete ring of wear around the top of the curved edge.
So it has been displayed like this
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It could be Scottish but I also think Czech is a distinct possibility, they seem to have used glass more extravagently and the base finish seems to support that too.
It too me quite a while to work out what the shapes was doing from the pics... finally clicked 8)
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I have three pieces in that particular shape. One is in black glass with metallic decoration and it is Czech. One is Bulgarian and is a contender for ugly piece of the year. And one is from Mikasa designed by Michael Lax.
So as far as the shape goes, it may have been invented over and over again by various makers.
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Thank you both :) I'm going to concentrate on searching out Czech pieces to start with. Ivo thanks also for the name Michael Lax - he designed some very interesting pieces. His name rings a bell but I'd never really investigated any of his work.
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I've not had any luck on searching for this bowl so far. The only thing that comes remotely similar in terms of decor and the way the colour is laid on or used is a small signed Schneider bowl. If you hold them up to the light together they are very close in the way they are made. However the colours of the large bowl are just very slightly different.
I'll get a pic of them together and a close up of the colour fluffy effect that is clearer.
Is there any way this piece could be French 30's? - I have found a Daum bowl in the same double walled shape so the shape seems ok I think :-\ maybe?
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Just to add not that I think it is Daum...only that I've seen the shape made by them and that was one of the things that made me think perhaps not French until I found that.
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http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51973.msg294785.html#msg294785
similar shaped bowl posted on this thread
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New I had seen it before :)
Ivo can you add pics of your three, cut edge might help in matching up.
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Wondering if this might end up being something like La Rochere is it?
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I don't think so but you can always ask - they're really nice people.
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Just to throw another name in the mix, Cumbrian glassmaker Adrian Sankey made some pieces in this shape, which they call Pillow candleholders, the ones I have seen are plain colours. I haven't seen cased glass by them though... although AS now only makes lighting glass one of his old catalogues is still online as an archive reference: http://www.glassmakers.co.uk/archive/