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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: chloe on November 01, 2008, 05:28:48 PM
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I thought that this would be a simple piece to attribute, but looking at Pamela's website, there are lots of factories with this shape, and I can't get the pattern!
Thanks, as always
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What's the bottom like Chloe? Is it patterned, plain, polished flat, indented or what? Can we have a pic of the bottom? (We like bottoms, they tell us lots. ;))
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Josef Rindskopf (Czech), though there are some look-alikes out there.
GT
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Thanks Glen
Here's a pic of the bottom, for reference
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Thanks for the pic Chloe, very useful to have for ref. :)
Glen, re Rindskopf, we don't hear much about them so I found your website article totally fascinating, thank you (and did they make trinket sets by any chance?)
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Anne, yes, Rindskopf did make items that could be assembled as a trinket set - but (based on what I have observed in the catalogues I have studied) they did not market "trinket sets" per se.
One pattern in particular (known to Carnival collectors as Diamond Ovals, but named "Orient" by Rindskopf) was produced in all the shapes that could be put together as a trinket set. However, nowehere in the Rindskopf catalogues can I see them assembled as such. I used to own a perfume bottle in light marigold on pale amber in this pattern. You can see it in the following image (from the Rindskopf catalogue 12A - I am not entirely certain of the date, circa 1920ish). The Diamond Ovals perfume is third from the right.
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I'll add a bit more to my comments above.
Diamond Ovals (Orient) is a fairly frequently found pattern in the bowl shape, and yet the perfume is incredibly hard to find. Possibly clear glass examples are easier to source. I have not seen a full trinket set "in the flesh" in this pattern, yet the Rindskopf catalogues show dresser tray, powder bowl, ring holder, perfume etc.
Another pattern by Rindskopf that is rather well known is the Classic Arts. The covered sugar bowl in this pattern is often (wrongly) referred to as a powder bowl.
The word "Zerstauber" on the image in my post above surely refers to perfume bottles - however when I googled it, I found the translation meant atomisers or vapourisers. I don't think that the bottles shown were fitted with rubber bulbs to spray perfume.
Finally, if anyone else is interested in reading about Rindskopf, the direct link to my article is here:
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/RindskopfHome.html
Alternately go to my Home page www.carnival-glass.net and choose European and Australian Carnival from the menu on the left. You will then access several pages of contents and a pattern/manufacturer index.
Glen
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Glen, thank you so much, that's really helpful information. May I quote you for the Rindskopf section on the trinket sets website please? Full credit would be given to you of course.
Also, just looking at your catalogue image reminded me that I have a square perfume or cologne bottle (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-695) which I still haven't pinned down to a maker. I had tentatively wondered if it was St Louis as I found one some time ago with a similar stopper and shape but different pattern on the Great Glass site, but seeing the squared one (2nd from left) in the cat image, now I'm wondering if it could be a Rindskopf one?
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May I quote you for the Rindskopf section on the trinket sets website please? Full credit would be given to you of course.
~ ~ Of course you may, Anne. It would be my pleasure.
Also, just looking at your catalogue image reminded me that I have a square perfume or cologne bottle (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-695) which I still haven't pinned down to a maker. I had tentatively wondered if it was St Louis as I found one some time ago with a similar stopper and shape but different pattern on the Great Glass site, but seeing the squared one (2nd from left) in the cat image, now I'm wondering if it could be a Rindskopf one?
~ ~ I'm inclined to say probably not Rindskopf.....but others may know better.
Glen
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Thank you on both counts Glen and I'll keep searching for the square bottle. :)