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Jan Exnar's designs are definitely round and we can feel that he is at his center.
Definitivamente los diseños de Jan Exnar son redondos y podemos sentir que él está en su centro.
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Glass / Re: 2 lovely etched flagons decanters, poss Dutch?
« Last post by flying free on Yesterday at 11:44:09 PM »
Yes (I love Holland    :D ) but that windmill doesn't look quite like a Dutch windmill to me really.
If I look at images online they don't seem to have a square house with a roof on them, the shape is more triangular.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/beautiful-dutch-windmill-landscape-at-kinderdijk-in-royalty-free-image/507119759
or this
https://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/dutch_windmill.html?mediapopup=37469714

 And also the windmill sails, there appear to be four on the Dutch windmills and they look bigger than those on the engraving whereas  the engraving seems to have four shorter ones plus maybe two more hidden?

This one is Czech and has five sails
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-windmill-svetlik-horn%C3%AD-podlu-%C3%AD-one-largest-surviving-windmills-czech-republic-dutch-style-image55366711

I'm thinking maybe  a Czech windmill shape to the building?

or maybe Slovenia?

http://www.istockphoto.com/gb/photo/farm-windmill-in-slovenia-gm517707988-89639183

I can find windmills with six sails in England and have found one in France.  But the building doesn't look the same shape as the engraving and neither the size of the sails
http://www.heckingtonwindmill.org.uk/explore-history.html

https://tcmg.org.uk/heage-windmill-derbyshire/

m
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Glass / Re: 2 lovely etched flagons decanters, poss Dutch?
« Last post by Anne Tique on Yesterday at 11:31:38 PM »
I would not know if they are  :D it's the seller in the Dutch link who says so ... even though I haven't set a step over the border for a while, they do have a lot of windmills and they're part of the history and culture, plenty of boats with all the rivers and canals, a couple of birds can be found too but nothing with vino except for consuming it... no vineyards in NL, or definately not at that time, be it 1800 or 1935.
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Glass / Re: 2 lovely etched flagons decanters, poss Dutch?
« Last post by flying free on Yesterday at 11:13:20 PM »
are they Dutch?  :)

I've always wondered.

Windmills can be seen in many European countries I think?  not just Holland. So I've always wondered where they originated, or where the design originated.

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So possibly now is the time to embarrass myself and put forward my thoughts to be shot down in flames  ;D

The monogrammed script M is the same as the monogram for Maria Feodorovna who was married to Paul of Russia.

On a pediment on the Pavlosk Palace there is a combined monogram for Paul and Maria Feodorovna that is exactly the same M.
https://i1.wp.com/img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4516/84064482.159/0_9b288_9c4c63b4_orig.jpg?ssl=1

see on the left here also the monogram cypher for Maria Feodorovna and also on the right

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSuIE8FiBRE/TpOyz7EiNSI/AAAAAAAAAbg/XlXeU1W3qOM/s1600/6638e8208dfft.jpg

'Diamond imperial cyphers of the Empress Maria Feodorovna, consort of Paul I (left),
the Empress Elizabeth Alexeievna, consort of Alexander I, in combination with the monogram of the Dowager Empress Maria Feodorovna (right), and the Empress Maria Feodorovna, consort of Alexander III (center)'

and also here
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CCxiz_plQQs/TpO1E8F8W5I/AAAAAAAAAb4/54iUv41flPA/s1600/afghfksah35.jpg
source: http://arrayedingold.blogspot.co.uk/2011_10_01_archive.html



The palace also had trellis work on it - this is a recent photograph:
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-palace-of-tsar-pavel-paul-i-in-pavlovsk-saint-petersburg-russia-20857139.html

and she was very into horticulture and flowers with a huge knowledge apparently
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Feodorovna_(Sophie_Dorothea_of_W%C3%BCrttemberg)


I'm aware this is a sounding a little bit farfetched,however I thought it 'interesting' that finding an engraved egg is so rare and that it happened to have the initials MF on it.


I don't know how far from the truth I am with this (possibly a very long way  ;D ) and there is a phrase for making evidence fit your ideas (can't remember it at the moment) but ...  - confirmation bias is the phrase I'm looking for ...




On the other hand the design of the basket and the birds has some similarities with French handpainted opaline beakers dating to the early 1800s so it might be French (see Leon Darnis Baguiers et Verre a Boire pp115 for example).  However none of the birds I can see in there have crests.

But then, Paul and Maria Feodorovna did a European tour taking in France in 1781
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Feodorovna_(Sophie_Dorothea_of_W%C3%BCrttemberg)




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Malta Glass / Re: Opinion on Boffo and Rosenthal
« Last post by MaltaGlass on Yesterday at 10:31:02 PM »
Noted with Thanks ;D
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Glass / Re: 2 lovely etched flagons decanters, poss Dutch?
« Last post by Anne Tique on Yesterday at 10:15:51 PM »
I have never seen them (funny that, being Dutch) so I couldn't tell the difference, but I'm sure you're right.
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Glass / Re: 2 lovely etched flagons decanters, poss Dutch?
« Last post by flying free on Yesterday at 10:09:16 PM »
Anne I think they were 'revisited' as revival pieces at various points in time.

I have seen many of them (in photos) and they don't all look the same.  I think there are some old ones and some more recent examples maybe?
m
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Glass / Re: 2 lovely etched flagons decanters, poss Dutch?
« Last post by Anne Tique on Yesterday at 10:02:03 PM »
Another one half way down the page,  but I don't know what I'm talking about really, and neither does the seller of one of these two examples you have now, the one that M posted, and this one here http://www.happytown-catalogus.nl/20/index.php/index/cat/35-G as one is dated 1800 and the other one 1935  :P

The Dutch add describes it as a wedding decanter, but the description in M's link sounds a bit more acceptable, but again, I only searched in Dutch because it was mentioned ...  I couldn't help otherwise.

I'm sure someone will clear it up.
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Malta Glass / Re: Opinion on Boffo and Rosenthal
« Last post by Anne on Yesterday at 09:59:42 PM »
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