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Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 27, 2006, 10:41:35 AM
This large bowl has been 'in the family' for at least 60 years, but I haven't been able to find out much about it.
I have had suggestions that it may be Whitefriars or Webb, but nothing definite.
It's about 13" in diameter by 3.75" deep (33cm x 9.5cm) and has lots of elongated uncontrolled bubbles in it, some of which can be felt at the surface.
Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
Thanks, John.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/hog-man/IM000467.jpg
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 27, 2006, 10:45:32 AM
John Walsh Walsh's Pompeian is a more likely possiblity
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 27, 2006, 10:47:55 AM
WOW ~ that was quick!

Thanks very much. I'll have a look into it ~ as I'm fairly new to glass, I don't know this name, but I'm sure I'll be able to find something!

Thanks again, John.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: David E on August 27, 2006, 10:49:54 AM
Might have an acid-etch if it is JWW - Bernard will be able to confirm.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 27, 2006, 11:01:04 AM
It wasn't always marked, I have a primrose piece that isn't marked and a piece that I'm pretty confident is Post-war Pompeian (green, no uranium) and neither are marked.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: David E on August 27, 2006, 11:06:49 AM
I remember Bernard in one topic describing how it took him days before he eventually spotted one mark, which is why I mentioned it.

John/Mary: if you edit the title to include the words 'John Walsh Walsh' this should make Bernard's ears prick up :lol:
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 27, 2006, 11:11:37 AM
Thanks all.

Have now had a quick look at some links on the internet and it does look right for the JWW Pompeian.

Also had another good look for a mark, and found one! It definitely has the word England etched with another over it which could well be Walsh. Mary thought I was mad when I said I'd found a mark and spent about 5 minutes trying to find it, which she did eventually!

Is it collectable and/or valuable?

Also, will change the title as suggested!

Very many thanks, John.

PS going to watch the Grand Prix now, so may not be back for an hour or two!
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: David E on August 27, 2006, 11:14:00 AM
Pompeian is generally very collectable.

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PS going to watch the Grand Prix now, so may not be back for an hour or two!

Me too! ta ta
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Bernard C on August 27, 2006, 01:14:32 PM
Yes, it's a classic Walsh Pompeian floating bowl, pattern No. A4950 if it is unfooted, quite a late design in the Pompeian range.   Well done finding the mark.   Note that with the mark it was unlikely to have been sold through the Birmingham wholesaler Hill Ouston.

I think that I have another example in blue in my stock boxes packed in the car for the Woking fair tomorrow.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 27, 2006, 01:54:17 PM
Thank you very much for the information and confirmation Bernard. Not quite sure about the 'unfooted' bit ~ it's not a separate foot, but the bottom is formed into a wide foot, as I've tried to show in the picture below.
Also, could you give me an idea of value (without compromising yourself for tomorrow!) ~ I'm thinking of listing it on eBay, but I'm not sure if it's worth doing.
Thanks again to all, John.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/hog-man/IM000356.jpg)
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Bernard C on August 27, 2006, 03:04:53 PM
John — It's unfooted in the sense of no added foot.   Now I can see the profile I am not sure whether it is A4850 or A4809 — it is somewhere in between.   If you look in Reynolds for yourself, check the Iridescent pattern shapes as well.

In common with most of the contributors to the GMB I don't like talking monetary values, for the simple reason that I will almost certainly be wrong by a large margin.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 27, 2006, 03:08:43 PM
Thanks for that Bernard.

I don't have the Reynolds book, so can't check it out but will see what I can find elsewhere, or get a copy! I appreciate your position on giving monetary values ~ will have another chat with Mary, whose family it came through, and see what she wants to do.

Good luck with the show tomorrow, and thanks again, John.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 27, 2006, 03:23:50 PM
Here's my green vase. If there was a mark it's disappeared under the wear. Is it Pompeain? Its 7.5 inches tall and 6.25 inches top diameter. Click to zoom.
(http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/lustrousstone/th_IMG_0591.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/lustrousstone/IMG_0591.jpg)
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 27, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
As you know, I'm not an expert but, when I compare the bubbles in your vase to my bowl, they look the same except they run round the bowl as opposed to up and down as they do in your vase!

Also, the bowl has a nicely polished pontil mark ~ don't know if this helps.

I'm sure Bernard will be able to give a positive answer one way or the other.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 27, 2006, 03:42:34 PM
Mine has a big polished pontil
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 28, 2006, 10:28:57 PM
Just in case anyone's interested, I've now got it listed on eBay ~ item number 230023051387

Thanks again for all your help, John.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: David E on August 29, 2006, 07:40:45 AM
Off Topic: did you know that using a fancy font in HTML is entirely dependant on users having that specific font installed on their systems?
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Max on August 29, 2006, 07:46:50 AM
I have Papyrus on my computer, is that because it's an AOL font David?

Thank you for putting the GMB link on your listing John.   :D
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: David E on August 29, 2006, 08:00:46 AM
Hi Max, no it's all down to basic HTML principles. As the page you design is dependent on the viewer's installation, you are limited to what are called 'web-safe fonts': Times, Arial, Verdana, Tahamo to name four.

It's all down to the ability of the user's browser to render the page with the available resources :gulp:

Ooops, I feel a Cafe coming on :oops:  :wink:
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 29, 2006, 01:19:57 PM
Thanks for the info re the font ~ I hadn't realised that! I compose my descriptions on MS Word, and sort of assumed that everyone else would be able to see it!
Does it look awful if the viewer's PC can't render the font, or does it revert to one of the 'web-safe' fonts?
I hoped you wouldn't mind me putting the link in the listing, so thanks for that too.
Cheers, John.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: David E on August 29, 2006, 02:36:01 PM
John,

I think the text ends up looking like standard ASCII text if the viewer has not installed the font. What you could do is provide the HTML <font> definition with alternatives, such as Arial or Verdana, but this needs a certain amount of HTML knowledge.

Far simpler to use a web-safe font to begin with.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 29, 2006, 02:48:57 PM
Thanks for that David ~ can't be bothered with the HTML thing, so guess I'll have to think about changing the font!
Much appreciated, John.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Anne on August 29, 2006, 04:03:21 PM
The listing looks like any other to me... no fancy font or awful looking text. Normally browsers have a fall-back that if they cannot use a set font there is a default they will fall back to. It's set somewhere in the browser options and can be set to either a generic (as in on the system) serif or sans-serif font, or to a named plain face. Have a poke around in your browser options and you should find this. You should also find options to override anyone's fancy fonts and colours and use plain ones you like if you so choose. These are all part of standard browser accessibility options, as visually impaired users have problems with odd colours and fonts so need the option to disable/override them.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 29, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
Why not use Turbo Lister to list your ebay items. It does the HTML thing for you in safe fonts. Compose at leisure then upload en masse. It's a free program that can be found on the ebay site.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 29, 2006, 06:50:33 PM
Thanks Christine.

I do actually use Turbo Lister ~ I'd be lost without it ~ but I compose the description in Word then copy to TL and add the pictures etc.

Will have a closer look at what's available on TL in the next day or two ~ I've got time to spare as the auctions locally have been pretty dire over the last week or so and we're virtually out of stock!

Thanks again, John.
Title: Is this a John Walsh Walsh bowl?
Post by: johnfandmaryp on August 29, 2006, 06:51:47 PM
And thank you too Anne ~ not sure if I understand it all, but will take time to have a proper look over the next day or two. Cheers, John.