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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: bethsbargains on March 22, 2007, 10:33:51 PM

Title: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? - ID probably Italglass in Italy
Post by: bethsbargains on March 22, 2007, 10:33:51 PM
I bought a chip and dip set on ebay that was supposed to be the Flora pattern.  Although there are similarities, I see differences too in the style of flowers.  Has anyone seen reproductions of this?

http://auctionsuite.com/uploads/48hr_uploads/Iittala%20Flora%20Chip%20&%20Dip%20Side3.jpg

http://auctionsuite.com/uploads/48hr_uploads/Iittala%20Flora%20Chip%20&%20Dip4.jpg

Thanks,  Beth

Mod: Images lost, topic retained for info value. If Beth is still reading and has images could they be added back to this topic please?




Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: Cathy B on March 23, 2007, 12:26:28 AM
I've seen something like this pattern sold brand new and made in Asia (Indonesia?).
Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: bethsbargains on March 23, 2007, 02:02:05 AM
Cathy - Thanks.  Do you remember where you saw it?  Beth
Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: Cathy B on March 23, 2007, 05:24:00 AM
The pattern I'm thinking of was sold in local homewares shops like House in Canberra (Australia) within the last few years. I don't know whether it's exactly the same as yours--all I noted was that it looked quite like Iittala's Flora. With luck someone who knows more about either or both can help soon!
Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: robbo on March 23, 2007, 08:53:54 PM
Hi Beth & Cathy,

I do have a catalogue "Oiva Toikka: Glass" which lists the various components of Flora & when they were introduced (the book goes up to c. 1988). Unfortunately I've mis-placed my copy recently but will check it when it eventually comes to light—hopefully soon—I'm currently searching, I just hope I haven't thrown it out with the recycling ;D

robbo
Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: Sklounion on March 24, 2007, 07:21:12 AM
Hi Beth,
I don't think fake or reproduction is necessarily the case.
Quite often designs can appear either simultaneously, or  with a short intervening period.
Recently I found a Riihimaki pattern that is very similar to Matura's "Praha" table-ware. I would not call either a fake, though there may exist an element of plagiarism, a not uncommon occurence with mass-produced glass.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: bethsbargains on March 25, 2007, 12:58:10 AM
Robbo - Thanks.  I do hope you find it soon.

Marcus - Thanks as well.  I realize that similar designs will always be around and are useful in a lot of ways.  The price will be different, though.

Beth

Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: bethsbargains on June 25, 2007, 10:35:24 AM
Cathy B

Thanks for moving this.

I have since seen more of these reproductions on ebay.  One was from Australia.

Beth
Title: Re: Nuutajarvi Iittala Flora? or Fake
Post by: maxyespantry on October 05, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
I have two sets of salad bowls (9 1/2" and four 4 1/2") that I bought in the '60s or '70s from Bloomingdales (I think). They look a lot like Flora and are made by Italglass in Italy. I think they cost $30-$35 per set. I also have a chip-and-dip set, and I know I couldn't have spent big money for it. Now that I have some authentic Flora pieces, I can see the difference; the Italglass is not as delicate. Replacements does not list a 4 1/2" bowl in Flora.