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Title: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: Wayne on August 13, 2010, 06:36:38 AM
I've seen a lot of sommerso vases in this jug style before, but never signed, and was just wondering what people think of the signature [linkage (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110570179432)].
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: kane_u_pain on August 13, 2010, 07:39:53 AM
I would say fake...i would expect Seguso Vetri d'Arte but the with Flavio Poli...dremmel...plus it doesn't look like a piece of his work...
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 13, 2010, 12:11:50 PM
It doesn't look obviously fake. It's well executed and correctly spelt. The question is "Where did the 'fact' that these flattened pieces were designed by him come from?" If it is a fact, it might be a genuine signature.
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: tam bam on August 13, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
I have to agree with Pain on this one. 

tam bam 
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: Wayne on August 13, 2010, 06:34:40 PM
Thanks everyone, for the opinions so far.  I've found another vase on ebay [here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIGNED-SEGUSO-VETRI-DARTE-2-COLOR-VASE-FLAVIO-POLI-/360244942171?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0)] also signed Seguso Vetri d'arte, Flavio Poli.  Different style of vase, and different style of signature though.
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: tam bam on August 13, 2010, 08:52:39 PM
Hi Wayne,

I would be skeptical of that one also, but that is only my opinion.  There are many fakes out there, especially when it comes to Flavio Poli. 

tam bam
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: sandymae on August 13, 2010, 10:56:56 PM
I have a small pitcher in a similar design, which has what looks like a faded Toso label? Could be wrong as you can only really read Murano, and not sure just how many workshops did these.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13295
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13294
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13293
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13292
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: kane_u_pain on August 13, 2010, 11:20:41 PM
That beautiful sommerso has been ruined with a fake signature... :hb2:
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: Wayne on August 14, 2010, 08:05:03 AM
Lol I know what you mean Kane, such a shame!

Sandy, thanks for posting your pics, I've seen quite a few in that style too.  I'm not sure, but I think that label might have been one of the generic red ones, I had a look through the Murano labels section on here though and couldn't spot it.

I was hoping if these signatures could be verified, then it might confirm if these designs were Seguso Vetri d'Arte.  It's never that simple though is it?  I guess we will have to wait for Marc Heiremans book to come out.  Another three years apparently, I can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: tam bam on August 14, 2010, 12:13:21 PM
Come to think of it, I have never seen a SVdA piece actually signed (real signature) by Poli.  This has always lead me to believe that SVdA never signed his designs.  Has anyone else?

tam bam
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: kane_u_pain on August 16, 2010, 06:40:57 AM
I have only seen a handful of signed pieces and all original. All signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte and never with Flavio Poli. Design & Arts had a gorgeous and huge Poli dolphin listed a few months back with a label and signed SVdA. Went out of my price range though.

I have also seen a plum and silver foil bowl/vase that was signed SVdA but didn't buy it due the silver foil. I only go for the gold ones. They are rare! And tip for telling a true one, they don't look as professional as these 2 signatures. They look rushed and loose.
Title: Re: Signed Seguso Vetri d'Arte vase on ebay - is it 'real'?
Post by: Wayne on August 16, 2010, 07:13:53 PM
Thanks for the useful tip Kane, I will be wary of signatures that look "too good".  :thup: