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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Scandinavian Glass => Topic started by: Littleblackhen on July 02, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
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I bought these suncatchers as Holmegaard and I have found 3 of them (or something very similar) on the excellent Holmegaard resource site here
http://www.holmegaardresource.com/function_suncatcher.html
The fourth one, the darker blue one, is quite small (5.5cm diameter) and has a pattern that I haven't seen anywhere, can anyone confirm that it is also Holmegaard please?
I am using the sellers photo's with permission.
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Hej
One can not really be sure on the sun catchers shown.
Have seen them many times on the Internet and also here in Denmark, but I do not have the type in any catalogue from Holmegaard.
The sun catchers that I call Noah’s Ark with a simple boat with animals (giraffe, elephant and so on) are from Holmegaard Glasswork and designed by Michael Bang in 1967 together with a range on Letter-Weights.
That do not means that you sun catchers is not Holmegaard but I have never seen them i any Holmegaard catalogue, could be after hours work by glassworkers as well og from source, it is hard to.
You can explorer my website "Brugsglas galleri" Art glass gallery for "Platter" way down alphabetic under P for Plates.
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The suncatchers with the three swirls are Holmegaard - I've had several in colours that exactly match the Noah's Ark series, and one in the Smoke colourway.
Not sure about the smaller one. I have seen these miniature ones, originally designed as necklace pendants - or so I've been told. One of my dealer colleagues has one with the three swirls illustrated above, about the same size as your small one.
Their absence in the factory catalogues could mean that they were sold through the factory shop, or were commissioned for another company to distribute.
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The suncatchers with the three swirls are Holmegaard - I've had several in colours that exactly match the Noah's Ark series, and one in the Smoke colourway.
Not sure about the smaller one. I have seen these miniature ones, originally designed as necklace pendants - or so I've been told. One of my dealer colleagues has one with the three swirls illustrated above, about the same size as your small one.
Their absence in the factory catalogues could mean that they were sold through the factory shop, or were commissioned for another company to distribute.
Your probably right, but you can not be sure, we have a lot of small glassblowing studios around in Denmark employing 1 or more persons and they do make a lot of different artglass and stemware, so many of these different sun catchers could very well be from another studio, several of the Holmegaard designers do have there own local glass studio f.ex Anja Kjær and Peter Svarrer and they make a lot of there own glass productions, but that do not make it from Holmegaard Glasswork.
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Thank you both for your comments :)
I am interested that the small one might be a pendant, I just tried it on a chain but it loses all its pattern against the skin or clothes, so I think I will put it back in the window ;D
Nice website Peter, thanks, I have bookmarked it.
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The 'Smoke' colourway does seem exclusive to the factory - I've not seen that particular grey-green anywhere else. So I'd be 99.99% certain that the swirled ones are Holmegaard.
The only way I could think that they're not Holmegaard is if the factory sold its unwanted cullet (waste glass) to local glassmakers.
As far as I know, the following suncatcher is not catalogued either, but it is definitely Kastrup or Holmegaard (the motif being designed by Jacob Bang for the Antikgrøn series).
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The 'Smoke' colourway does seem exclusive to the factory - I've not seen that particular grey-green anywhere else. So I'd be 99.99% certain that the swirled ones are Holmegaard.
The only way I could think that they're not Holmegaard is if the factory sold its unwanted cullet (waste glass) to local glassmakers.
As far as I know, the following suncatcher is not catalogued either, but it is definitely Kastrup or Holmegaard (the motif being designed by Jacob Bang for the Antikgrøn series).
Hej Nic
Your probably right, but they can easy have been made one of the 50 or more glasshouses in Dk were they make a lot of different types of these suncatchers and item in glass as necklace pendants.
The motif on your suncatcher photo does look like Antikgrøn series, but I did see glass plates on Orkney Island with very similarly motive that does look very Celtic like.
Think it is very hard to determain for certain if the many various suncatcher to be from Holmegaard, in lack of documentation.
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Hej Peter.
I agree that with a lack of catalogue evidence it can be hard to say which suncatchers and pendants came from what factory with any absolute certainty - and so quite often we have to rely on instinct and experience until something more reliable turns up.
I've also got this one, also a motif from Antikgrøn:
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Hej Peter.
I agree that with a lack of catalogue evidence it can be hard to say which suncatchers and pendants came from what factory with any absolute certainty - and so quite often we have to rely on instinct and experience until something more reliable turns up.
I've also got this one, also a motif from Antikgrøn:
Yes, I can see that it looks very much like the vase, but it is, what should I say, made with a positive stamp, but if you look at the blue plate with Celtic man it is made with a negative stamp, and to me it looks like most of Holmegaard plates are made in negative stamp - hope it makes sense written in English :mrgreen:
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I understand what you mean - the stick figure on the suncatcher is also positive / raised, like on the Antikgrøn vases and bowls. I think they just reused the same press-mould from the Antikgrøn series for the suncatchers.
They don't seem to be worker's frigger / fusk items, as I've seen a few of them around in various Kastrup and Holmegaard colours (the two above use colours from Capri series and Grøn series).
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I noticed this suncatcher on ebay which has been attributed to Holmegaard
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Holmegaard-4-Suncatcher-Michael-Bang-c-69-70s-3_W0QQitemZ220444350030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Art_Glass?hash=item335381d64e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=65%3A1|66%3A4|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A200
Item no 220444350030
It has the same pattern as my smallest blue one!
It says attributed with thanks to the Glass Message Board, but I haven't found a thread with these on :huh:
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The thread is here
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,21828.0.html
for that suncatcher
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Thanks Christine, that is great. I am not sure why it didn't come up when I searched, I probably haven't got the hang of it yet :-[