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Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Deb of Oz on September 03, 2006, 06:40:09 AM
Hi All
I FINALLY managed to get a good picture of the base of this vase. The only pontil marks I've seen are round, like a navel.

Is this a maker's mark, and if so whose please:
www.flickr.com/photos/59481749@N00/232454851/in/photostream/

Here it is showing the label:
www.flickr.com/photos/59481749@N00/232454852/in/photostream/

The mouth is more oval than in this photo:
www.flickr.com/photos/59481749@N00/232454850/in/photostream/

ta muchly
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Della on September 03, 2006, 07:30:11 AM
Hi Deb  :D

I would say that the 2 most likely candidates are Aseda or Alsterfors, 1960's.
Hopefully someone will be able to add more information.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Deb of Oz on September 13, 2006, 05:07:30 AM
Hi Deltab
I've been mostly out of it with a nasty two part flu (last month of winter here), so I am getting around to sorting out my email.

Thanks for your help, but does anyone know if the mark on the base a pontil or a signature, please?

Deb
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 13, 2006, 09:46:03 AM
I've seen this design of vase described as "Catinka",  from Elme Glasbruk, Sweden.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Deb of Oz on September 15, 2006, 11:14:13 AM
It certainly looks like it - thank you!! And I discovered ebay in Swedish - as if the Anglo versions weren't enough.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: David555 on September 15, 2006, 02:38:27 PM
Hi

Any chance of a good clear close up of the actual label with as much of the lettering as possible.

It seems very plain for Alsterfors and they never had this marking to the base, they did do palette style vases (famous UFO vase) but not that often. Aseda - did they do any palette style (white inner)?

It could be one of many companies that followed Holmegaard.

Looking at my small database of Elme pieces the shape and style tracks so that could be a possibility Anne - they tended to use gold export labels as well - the base markings are important then, can anyone else with an Elme vase confirm this moulded base?

I have no Elme


All just IMO


Thanks


Adam P
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Della on September 15, 2006, 02:47:57 PM
Hi Adam,  :)
Yes, Aseda did do white inners, shown on pg. 36 Fire & Sea, along with Alsterfors and Orrefors, also pictured.
Lindshammer also made vases with white inners.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 15, 2006, 04:03:43 PM
Adam - for interest,  these are my Elme pieces
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/GlassbyElmeSweden.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/glass008.jpg

Two have the George Hardy stickers on (black print on silver and gold on green), and two also have a small round orangey sticker with MADE IN SWEDEN in red.

Sorry, unable to photograph the bases.  Currently packed safely away ready to go in storage.  However, they do not have a pontil mark.

Mod: Important Note. As at 19 May 2020, a thread by Wayne (https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69609.msg387923.html#msg387923) advises that George Hardy was not the importer of various glass items as has been stated in threads within the GMB. The correct importer name is Hans Geismar.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Deb of Oz on September 16, 2006, 06:53:06 AM
The label is so worn you'd just about need a microscope to read it, and I don't think my happy snaps camera will get in close enough.

However I will try to describe what I see. I think it was once oval. The background of the label is matt gold, with a fine shiny 'bright' gold line maybe 1mm thick around the edge. The lettering is also 'bright', in sans serif capital letters. All that's left is:
MADE
IN (partly obscured by a scratch)
SW ....

The label isn't anything like the one I found at Tradera.com, but I didn't know the label itself would mean anything. Also the casing around the mouth seems thicker on mine, but it could be the angle of the Tradera pic.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Della on September 16, 2006, 06:58:41 AM
This is the label that is on an Aseda vase that I have.

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/thumb_asedalabel.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3316)
 :shock: Click to enlarge :shock:

Does your label resemble this one, Deb?

EDIT: I don't think it is from your description. The one I think that you are referring to, can be found on pg. 193 of Smoke & Ice or pg. 245 of Fire & Sea (both books by Leslie Pina & Lorenzo Vigier), however they do not give an indication of which factory may have used it. Sorry.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Deb of Oz on September 16, 2006, 10:39:01 AM
Thank you for all the trouble you're going to for one small vase.

On my label the words run straight across, one word per line and don't follow the shape.

I am very dubious about labels. I passed on a nice little orange vase because it was described as Japanese and had a Grizelle (German porcelain)  label. Someone bought it for about $5, removed the label, described it as Italian, & sold it for something like $40.

I am pleased I found a similar shape, size & colour, and paid about the same as the buyer in Sweden. (Whew). It was my first attempt to buy something not recognisably 'old tat', much of which (when you include postage) is very overpriced.

So often I am caught between a newbie bidding to infinity & beyond, and someone who will pay anything to own whatever it is, that I think it will be some time before I buy again.

And I have learned that pontil marks aren't always round like navels.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: robbo on September 19, 2006, 09:09:05 PM
Hi everyone,

I bought this vase at the weekend which I suspect may be Elme (helpfully, at the fair another stall had a peacock vase). It would be great if someone could confirm / refute :lol:
- the colouring is the same as the peacock vases
- it has a G Hardy import sticker
- the rim is finished like the peacock vases
- the base has similar characteristics to the orange vase originally posted.

Whole Thing (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3337)
Base (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3336)

robbo
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 20, 2006, 08:40:14 AM
Hi Robbo.  There is one currently on Tradera - attributed to Elme.  The colours and base match my peacock vases.
Title: Orange Swedish vase - identify please
Post by: robbo on September 20, 2006, 11:01:30 AM
Thanks Anne,
I've checked it out!

robbo