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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on July 18, 2012, 06:55:08 PM

Title: id request for R/Brierley wine/rummer.
Post by: Paul S. on July 18, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
I've finally mastered the Picassa process, and thought this was an attractive glass to show, and at the same time to ask if one knows the pattern name.        I can post in the C5 Crystal Patterns as a mystery item, but would prefer to include a name if possible, so hoping someone might know more.   Thanks for looking.  :)
Title: Re: id request for R/Brierley wine/rummer.
Post by: Paul S. on July 18, 2012, 06:58:33 PM
knew I'd forget something.            The backstamp is simply the word BRIERLEY - anyone know if this comes before or after the rather free hand written Royal Brierley?    I've not seen this style of backstamp previously (not that I'm suggesting it's rare)  -  I normally see the hand written looking one.
Title: Re: id request for R/Brierley wine/rummer.
Post by: Anne on July 19, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
Brierley Crystal became Royal Brierley Crystal c.1925, when they received a royal warrant from King George V.  Brierley backstamps would pre-date the royal warrant, methinks.

[Source: British Table & Ornamental Glass,  L M Angus-Butterworth]
Title: Re: id request for R/Brierley wine/rummer.
Post by: Anne on July 19, 2012, 12:05:22 AM
Some earlier versions of the Brierley mark shown here too Paul:
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/marks-s.htm and this also says the royal warrant was later, 1931.
Title: Re: id request for R/Brierley wine/rummer.
Post by: Paul S. on July 19, 2012, 01:34:12 PM
thanks for your sleuthing Anne.       The R/Brierley backstamp I see quite commonly is that shown in the first pic. (a hand written looking backstamp)  -  however, this rummer has a backstamp as shown in the second pic. - simply the word Brierley in upper case, and which oddly I'd not seen before  -  maybe it's used for particular production pieces - this is decorated with copper wheel engraving only, no cutting in the usual sense.
I can't believe that this glass is very old - perphaps no more than 30 - 40 years, certainly the underside of the foot has a quite modern look  -  am I correct in thinking that Royal Brierley ceased in c. 2000?
Dodsworth (British Glass Between the Wars) comments that during the 1960's, the factory used the word 'Brierley' in various forms - so perhaps this is one of those. :)
Title: Re: id request for R/Brierley wine/rummer.
Post by: Anne on July 19, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
It could be Paul, I didn't check in Dodsworth... ;)