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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: horochar on September 19, 2010, 03:33:20 AM

Title: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens? ID = AVeM
Post by: horochar on September 19, 2010, 03:33:20 AM
I love this little bowl.  The quality is extraordinary. (Hopefully the detail comes through in my photos.)    I didn't see the form in my Dino Martens book, but to my eye it looks like Aureliano Toso.  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Charles.
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: ahremck on September 19, 2010, 12:25:28 PM
Wow, what a beauty!  It looks like it might have been an apprentice piece to demonstrate all the different types of latticino.  My first ever piece of glass was a vine leaf in latticino and I still love it 30 years on.

Ross
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: jinxi on September 19, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
Can't reliably help you ID it, but I like it very much and have certainly seen other very similar pieces ID'd as AVEM in the past.  Look at this item 236, http://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/16340/page3 for an AVEM attribution - practically identical!  Only problem is, is it a correct attribution!

Veronica
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: TxSilver on September 19, 2010, 05:38:11 PM
Veronica is right. It is AVeM. I've seen one with a label.
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: horochar on September 19, 2010, 06:48:11 PM
Thanks very much, everyone!  The picture from the auction really says it all.  Great news, since I paid good money for this piece (over $100).  It's nice to own AVEM, nicer still if it is (in fact) designed by Martens.  I do note at figure 63, page 37 of the Dino Martens book a piece in this "stacked candy cane" (my term) pattern ("Centro da Tavola Bizzaro").  Hope springs eternal.  ;)

Charles.
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: TxSilver on September 19, 2010, 08:03:12 PM
I always feel like I'm raining on parades. Dino probably had nothing to do with the design, although his latticino pieces may have inspired the AVeM pieces. A few years back, Martens' name was linked to some of the AVeM pieces because of a mention in a book that a tuti-frutti pieces possibly was designed by him. The latticino bowls look a bit like some of his designs, so I believe they were lumped into the Martens attribution mix. I haven't seen any evidence that he did design them.

AVeM did many thing that looked a lot like Martens' pieces. IMO, their Martens-like pieces are very good. I actually prefer their Oriente to Martens', but I am probably alone with my preference. The AVeM Oriente is neater. :)
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: horochar on September 19, 2010, 08:56:42 PM
Anita is correct about the ugly tutti frutti bowls being passed off as Martens.  Not even close.  Mine has some design quality that makes me think it's a candidate for Martens, although definitive proof may be hard.  Martens did have some "signature" techniques and I have not seen these stacked ropes before in Murano glass. And there is that piece in the Martens book that I mentioned in my last post.
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: tam bam on September 20, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
I have to agree with Anita on this one.  I recognize the latticino as being AVeM also.  AVeM's latticino has aventurine around it.

tam bam 
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: tam bam on September 20, 2010, 02:26:23 PM
I wanted to add one more thing.  Not only did AVeM produce zanfirico (referenced the in my last post as latticino, sorry wasn't fully awake yet. lol) with the aventurine around it but so did Archimede Seguso.  I feel that your piece is made by AVeM though especially if Anita has seen another just like it with a label.  I just wanted to point out that Archimede Seguso did the same with some of his zanfirico. 

tam bam 
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: Jurgen on September 20, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Hi all................I also think AVEM................................Jerry
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: horochar on September 20, 2010, 03:40:36 PM
Lovely.  Looks good enough to eat!  What are the dimensions? 

(I only wish it were possible to modify the original title of the subject, so others in the future doing research can find this chain of messages).

Charles.
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens?
Post by: flying free on September 20, 2010, 08:58:49 PM
nothing to add but  - WoW :mrgreen: they are really beautiful.

m
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens? ID = AVeM
Post by: ejean9 on September 23, 2010, 09:46:15 PM
they are beautiful... :clap:
Title: Re: Toso Bowl - Aureliano or Fratelli Toso? Possibly Dino Martens? ID = AVeM
Post by: shineyobjects on September 23, 2010, 10:07:22 PM
Good buy!  Even if its not Martens $100 is a steal.