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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: PJ on October 14, 2012, 01:20:01 PM
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17 cm high, polished pontil mark on base, no markings
English? Dartington?
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Hello and welcome to the gmb, PJ. :)
The colour looks like citrine - one often associated with ZBS. I'd think Czech would be the first area to investigate.
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Thanks Sue
Although the colour is similar, the ZBS pieces look more organic in form whereas this is more geometric and is cut glass
The closest match I can find style-wise and in colour is with Aimo Okkolin cerium yellow pieces - Google these for images
Mysterious...
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Cirtrine really is a Czech thing. There are several companies doing this colour, and they include ZBS . Not just organic, also cut. The other one is Desna. And Moser is big on this colour which they developed in 1928.
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I've had an etched/engraved piece in citrine, (just a thin glass vase) and recently found a pressed-but-organic and deco-looking bit,.
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Hessenglas did citrine too...
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Might be Moser.
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Looking at the piece in question, Moser does look a likely contender. It's rather classy.
(I only put those 2 pics in, because they're not ZBS, just citrine.)
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Many thanks for all the input everyone. The colour does indeed look like a perfect match for Citrine so it may well be Czech
I've not been able to fing pictures of anything similar so far.
It is a rather beautiful little thing so I'm curious to ID it
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It's a bit quiet here just now - but don't give up hope. It can sometimes take years to get an id, although I'm sure this vase won't take that long. We just need the right person to come along and see it.
It's really nice, looks very well made. :)
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An elegant vase. Just to clarify please, is the base polished completely flat? I would expect this with a possible Czech piece, but if the pontil rod mark is polished into a concave central circle on the base, this would make Czech more doubtful.
If totally flat, it is possible to contact Moser and ask them about this piece, they have been very helpful with my enquiries, with cut pieces like this, the answer should be very clear from them, as they have a historian on site who has a lot of knowledge. (However, the Moser option is only one of a few possibilities).
customerservice@moser-glass.com
Robert (bOBA)
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Thanks Robert. There is definitely a polished pontil mark rather than a flat base. I'll try to post a photo later if I can
Good idea re the Moser historian and archivist
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The polished pontil mark is rare/unknown for Moser, I have only seen flat bases, same with ZBS. I am not even sure I would bother Moser with a piece of cut glass unless the base was flat! But it is a distinctive vase that deserves attribution..... maybe German and Scandinavian are options...
Robert (bOBA)
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I did eventually email the Moser historian - thanks for this idea
The reply - below - indicates it's not Moser but Zelezny Brod, although I'm not sure of their degree of confidence about this
Reply as follows
thank you for your e-mail and the sent pictures of your glass vase.
I have forwarded these photos to the Moser historian who confirmed me that this vase not produced by Moser glassworks as the citrine colour and way of producing do not correspond to the Moser production. It seems your vase might had been produced by the glassworks in Zelezny Brod (North Bohemia).