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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Tigerchips on June 21, 2006, 08:23:22 AM
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Any ideas as to which company this belongs to?
It doesn't look very old, I think it's European? There's a raised number "2" moulded into the base. The base rim is not polished.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48104.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48105.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48106.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48108.jpg
The usual marigold carnival colour. 15 inches in length and 5 inches wide at the top rim.
Thanks. :D
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This is the Gondola fruit bowl (or planter) made by the American company Jeannette. It's circa the 1950s - 1960s.
Super piece - distinctive, massive and very showy.
Glen
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Are those the ones that come in the colourful coated surfaces like fake amberina and bluerina? (...and how on earth do you spell bluerina?)
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Yes, Jeannette had some interesting effects in their repertoire. Same make as the much talked about "Aztec Rose" (various colorways are noted in the text here).
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/AztecRose.html
Blueeureena? :lol:
Glen
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BTW.....I spell it bluerina. But Google wants to make it
blue rhino :lol:
Glen
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Isn't this place great, I clicked on the Jeannette link, and what comes up ? An Aztec Rose bon bon that is sitting on my shelf waiting until I can find out what the heck it is called....!!
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:lol: Lynne - glad I could help :lol:
I wrote about the Jeannette Aztec Rose piece as it was appearing frequently (mistakenly) on eBay as a Brockwitz piece.
Is yours marigold or do you have one of the other colours?
Glen
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Hi Glen, It has a bright red coating at the base sprayed over an amber base glass, not irridised at all. I thought it was amberina when I first looked at it, then got it home and noticed a couple of little scratches in the red showed through to the amber. So I took it out of the lot, thought it was probably rubbish, and just put it on the side until I could find out a bit more!
I'll take a pic later, and pop it on here.
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Thank you Glen. Gondola, how romantic. :D
Oh, here's another one, hope you don't mind...
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48109.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48110.jpg
... I bought it today for 50p. Not much going on with the pattern but - like the Gondola - it has a gorgeous iridescence to it.
This one has lots of bubbles in it so I think it's older?
Thanks again.
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Hi TC - it's "Lustre and Clear" - thought to be Imperial Glass.
Not bad for 50p :lol:
Glen
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Two new carnival makers in one day. This fella couldn't be happier. :D
And another one...
... just kidding. :lol:
Actually, I'll show you this as I think it's a truely awsome (cool) piece of carnival. http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48115.jpg
Double Stem Rose pattern by Dugan, ice cream shape. Thanks.
Gondola's and ice cream, lol, just one Corneto...
I'm sure that song was sung on a gondola, unless I'm going nuts. :lol:
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It is to my understanding that Imperial Glass will almost always have an I in the bottom center of any type of glass they do and if you do have Imperial Carnival Glass you are a very lucky person. I hear that it is rare and hard to find. I have found a few pieces of Imperial Milk Glass. I thought I had some great Carnival but I found out it was true Carnival but it was newer like 10-15 years old and not worth a lot of money yet. Unfortunetley I found out with carnival you have to be very careful because what you think is old and worth a ton is really either a repo or very new. Good luck to everyone.[/img]
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Hi mrsspud and welcome,
To get a better understanding of Carnival glass, I highly recommend that you visit the site of the lady who has posted above, Glen:
www.carnival-glass.net
I think you will find the answers to your questions there, along with giving your eyes a wonderful treat.
:lol: :lol:
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Mrsspud - Welcome to GMB
You are under a misconception about the marking of Imperial. Early Imperial Glass is often not marked at all.
The company started in 1901. Some early pressed glass pieces were marked with NUART and NUCUT in 1914. Then in 1921 they began using the Imperial mark within a cross. In 1951, the began using the G superimposed over the I mark (which is the most common mark seen).
Then in 1971 when Lenox took control of the company an "L" was added just in front of the IG mark. In 1982 the company was sold to Arthur Lorch, a private investor and an "A" was added in front of the 'L"
The company was again sold in 1982 and a small amount of glass was made marked with a "N" over an "I" for New Imperial. The company ceased production in August 1984.
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Thanks for the correction, I think the person who thinks she is trying to teach me is all wrong in most of her facts and I always come back and try to check them out online but most of the time that just leads me to ebay which is fine except I know Carnival Glass Pitcher and 8 goblets is not 9.99 of even 19.99. But I am begining to find others to help and give me better info. Thanks
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First of all, I echo Connie's welcome, Mrs spud. And also, thank you Della, for your post above :)
Connie gave a most informative explanation of the use of the various Imperial moulded trademarks. The only thing I would add is that Summit Art Glass (no longer trading) purchased a number of Imperial moulds some decades ago, and made Carnival items that retained a mixture of the LIG and ALIG marks.
I'd like to comment on a couple of things mrs spud said, if I may.
Imperial Carnival isn't particularly rare and hard to find. Some patterns, such as the marigold Fashion punch set, and the marigold Lustre (or Open) Rose bowls are reasonably available and not expensive.
What determines the rarity and value of Imperial Carnival (and indeed any Carnival) is the combination of pattern, shape and colour. Some patterns are hard to find, while others are more available. The same goes for colours - marigold is usually (not always) more plentiful, while the other colours tend to be more sought after.
It's actually the same with Contemporary Carnival Glass. Some "limited" items are very sought after, while others are plentiful and available.
So how do you figure out what's old, what's new, what's repro and so on? Well there is no easy answer. You need to read, talk to collectors, perhaps go to a Carnival Convention or an auction and chat with other collectors. There really is no substitute for handling the glass and getting to understand its characteristics.
You can post your questions here on the GMB, we'll always try to help. There is also an internet based Carnival Glass club http://www.carnivalglass.org
which has a subscription membership, where you can chat and post photos for ID etc., and there are a number of land based carnival clubs throughout the world too.
Hope this helps a little.
Glen
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Thanks for your help here. Think I am going to switch over to silver and brass unless I know exactly where it came from and what it is, but I do so love glass. Tonight I got a cobalt blue shoe and some pressed glass hanging plates and my favorite a Frankomo Black "Crocus" vase. Had a great night at the auction and how was your night?? Thanks for the Info
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If you buy glass that you enjoy the look of, then you can't lose. Choose things that are lovely and please your eye. Does it matter if they are not "old" or worth thousands, when they give you much pleasure simply by owning them and looking at them?
As for knowing exactly what something is and where it came from - well, that's not always a plus. There's magic and mystery involved when you don't know. And it's certainly not boring when there's a touch of the "unknown" involved.
Glen
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WELL WELL WELL... The places people frequent that I know from other places. Hi Glen. Hi Cathy. Nice to see familiar names - I don't feel like a new girl at school now.
Just had interesting read on the "GONDOLA" bowl. So that's what that thing is that has been in my cupboard for at least 12 years !!!
Must be an omen in this because mine has the number 12 at one end under the base and it is very pale amber/pinky'ish in colour. Any idea on a value / price range / worth for these?? Are we allowed to ask that here ?? Any links to past sales so that I can look ??
Julie
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Seems I didn't get this in the place I wanted it to go. What did I do wrong? Thought I had the correct topic on screen.
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I will try again to post a reply here as my other one went somewhere else where I didn't want it. Damn....
Hi Glen, Hi Cathy - nice to know some people here - don't feel lonely now and like the new girl at school.
Thanks for the info on the "GONDOLA". Now I know what THAT THING is that I have had in the cupboard for 12 years.
Omen - oooh spooky - mine is much lighter more clearer/ light amber verging on being a bit pinkish and has the number 12 under it.
Cathy I received your message earlier and have acted on it - not here though.
Julie
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GREMLINS - SPOOKS......... There is my original post up above.
Is there a time delay ??
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GREMLINS - SPOOKS......... There is my original post up above.
Is there a time delay ??
Not normally, unless you're on dial-up, not broadband. After posting the message it should pop up straight away.
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Julie, if you're trying to reply to a particular post in a thread click the Quote button before you start typing your reply, then we'll see what you're referring to. If the post is somewhere higher in the thread the reply will always be tagged at the end which sometimes makes you think it's all out of sync, rather than immediately below the one you want to reply to. Hope that makes sense. ;)
Welcome to the board as well.
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Julie, if you're trying to reply to a particular post in a thread click the Quote button before you start typing your reply, then we'll see what you're referring to. If the post is somewhere higher in the thread the reply will always be tagged at the end which sometimes makes you think it's all out of sync, rather than immediately below the one you want to reply to. Hope that makes sense. ;)
Welcome to the board as well.
Like this ??
Thank you very much for pointing the way.
I believe I didn't take into account the fact that I was looking at Page 1 when I went back to read the first effort and didn't see the page reference to a second page. Now I know better. Lesson learned. :oops:
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Like this ??
Just like that, yes. Neat isn't it? :D
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((((Julie))))
:D WELCOME :D
I'm sorry I wasn't here earlier to say a big, warm Hello, but I've been away from home for several days, tending to elderly (ill) relatives.
Anyhow, it's great to see you here and thanks for your posting (above).
What's the Gondola worth? I always hesitate to answer value queries as it's so easy to get it wrong. I think the fairest answer is to say it's not an intrinsically valuable item. Not a big bucks piece. But it's attractive, not seen too often outside the USA, and it's also very practical and "useable".
Again - welcome.
Glen