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Title: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 22, 2010, 10:10:41 PM
I no nothing about Murano figures but this has fake aventurine and seems to be made from a mould !
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: kane_u_pain on January 23, 2010, 07:54:57 AM
Hi baked beans, could you take a pic of the stand to show the aventurine as it doesn't show up very well on the white lounge. I am not very familiar with figures but if it is a copy, it has been done extremely well. In my opinion i don't believe it is. Where was it purchased from if you don't mind me asking?



Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 23, 2010, 10:05:17 AM
Thanks Kane, I've added some more photos. I've never seen fake aventurine before. Must be done with enamel paint or some kind of transfer. I thought if it was Murano it would be real aventurine. Does the figure represent a male or female .....flamenco dancer maybe. If it is a flamenco dancer then it was probably made for the tourist market in Spain in the 1960's/70's but I'm only guessing here. I bought it in a junk shop in Bristol. It is perfect with no chips or cracks but a little ware to the avenurine where it has been dusted ! The trousers and body are ribbed and cased in clear glass and there is a seam down the inner leg which would suggest the legs were made in a mould. Cheers, Mike.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 23, 2010, 01:32:51 PM
Another pic. showing casing and ribbed trousers ! Now I think it's a Murano Spanish male dancer probably from a pair. Cheers, Mike.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Mosquito on January 23, 2010, 01:41:16 PM
I don't know what you mean by 'fake aventurine', all I can see is gold leaf applied to the surface as is widely used in Murano...
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 23, 2010, 03:00:53 PM
Thanks for clearing that point Mosquito ! I thought aventurine was internal and couldn't understand why it was a surface decoration ....but thats good news ! Cheers, Mike. P.S. Any ideas of the maker please .
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: TxSilver on January 23, 2010, 03:58:52 PM
I believe your figurine is a Jordan Import Co. piece. Shannon has a picture of a figure like yours in blue at http://gallery.blancoglass.com/v/Venetian+Figurines/Boulevardiers+3.JPG.html. JICo was a company in NY that both made and imported glass from Murano. From what I've read, much of their glass is their own. They imported things, e.g. paperweights, made by other companies as well.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 23, 2010, 04:26:34 PM
Gosh ! I really have to thank you so much Anita ! I havn't ever seen one of these figurines before and I'm so greatfull for your huge help !  :kissy: Do you think this was made in USA or Murano ?
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: TxSilver on January 23, 2010, 04:33:50 PM
The female of the pair pops up occasionally on eBay in the USA. You might be able to find the other half of the pair. They are often mis-attributed to Barovier, Seguso, or Fratelli Toso, but they are pretty easy to recognize.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 23, 2010, 05:09:43 PM
Thanks very much ...I will look out for her on ebay USA ! Cheers, Mike.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: TxSilver on January 23, 2010, 05:18:16 PM
Do you think this was made in USA or Murano ?

I didn't notice this end question before. It is made in Murano.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 23, 2010, 08:06:09 PM
What Anita meant was the Jordan Import designed pieces and had them made in Murano and also bought pieces off makers' shelves (standard lines) to import to the USA. Moulds and hot working are not incompatible if you want to achieve a particular shape or pattern. Also the gold leaf isn't likely to be worn, it's applied to hot glass and that's the effect you get.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: KevinH on January 24, 2010, 01:47:42 AM
Just a point to note ...

For anyone not familiar with the use of gold leaf on glass, please note that if something has gold leaf decoration (or even silver leaf), do not automatically assume it will be a Murano item. Lots of makers, from various countries, did - and still do - use gold leaf in much the same way as on this very nice Murano figure.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 24, 2010, 02:37:52 AM
Thanks Guys & Gals ...I  can't thank you all enough ..a real eye opener for me !! Cheers, Mike. :spls2:
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: TxSilver on January 24, 2010, 04:22:54 AM
I wondered after reading these comments if the gold is on the outside. Usually it is inside the glass. I recently bought an elephant that actually has the foil on the outside. It is rough and has an almost-Scavo-like feel and look to it. I believe the gold on these JICo pieces is inside the glass. If the glass is smooth, the gold is inside.
Title: Re: Is this figure a Chinese copy/fake of a Murano one ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 24, 2010, 11:13:49 AM
Yes, the gold is on the outside to the top of the base and has that slightly rough feel to it... certainly not inside the glass. It isn't worn either (as is mentioned above) and I can now see it's just the way it has been applied to the glass. Cheers, Mike.