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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Scandinavian Glass => Topic started by: msiscoe on April 04, 2011, 05:02:58 PM
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Hello, I bought this vase on eBay, which is marked Kosta 20231 under the base. Can anyone identify the designer?
Many thanks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=250791183077&si=cbYNn9s7nCJ%252BdNgI8iFeSr94c60%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
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Hey
Can you post pictures of the base too?
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Its number is considerably earlier than those current in the 1986 edition of the Kosta Boda Book of Glass. A very lovely piece, congratulations.
Ross
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Hello, thank you for the information. I thought it looked like Lindstrand, but, no initials in the signature. Here's a couple of photos:
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Hi
Thanks for posting more pics.
According to the Kosta Boda numbering system the 2nd & 3rd digits of a 5 digit code indicate year of design = 2002 which is odd as by then they had switched to a 7 digit numbering system (4th & 5th digit = year of design). Could the first 2 digits be separate from the second 3 or even be initials? It''s hard to tell from you photo.
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Hello, here's a better picture of the signature. I suppose the first symbols could be initials. Hard to tell:
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This is indeed a model designed by Vicke Lindstrand. It is called "On flight", and the original model number was LG 231. It first appears in the 1959 catalog.
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Hello, thank you all for your information. This is the only one of these I have seen. I can't believe someone sat and spent so much time engraving this piece, and that they were mass produced.
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The signature is imo fake.
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Daniel, can you explain why you feel this please?
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LG 231 Engraved glass by Lindstrand called in flight 1951 i believe the height should be about160mm so the first two digits are LG . :sleep: :hi: mine is probably in the loft cant remember selling it .
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Sorry cjf i didnt see your posting . :ho:
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the writing isn't right for me. And it looks like LO instead of LG.
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Daniel:
The dimensions given by the seller ( 6/12", roughly 165 mm and 9 1/2", roughly 242 mm) are very close to the dimensions given in Ricke's Swedish Glass Factories. It's hard to tell definitively if the engraving is the same as in Ricke but it looks very, very similar. I know it should be LG 231, but is it possible that the "O" is either a mistake or a badly made "G"?
My interest, which I'll confess, is that a friend was thinking of bidding on this, and asked if I thought it was genuine. I told him I thought there was a good chance it was genuine. He didn't bid, btw, which allowed Msiscoe to get it at a very good price. I'd buy it at twice that price, and more.
David
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David,
Sorry for being unclear.
My comments concerns ONLY the engraved signature. Not the actual engraved artwork.
Mistake? No I don't think so. They engraved/signed these things each day. THe signature is written with hesitation.
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Daniel:
The "O" isn't completely closed and seems to straighten out as it comes up on the right, which could be interpreted as someone trying to make a "G". However, I agree with you that the signature looks awkward to say the least, so I won't dispute what you say. Would you say that the piece itself could be authentic?
David
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I can't see any problems with artwork. It matches known specimen.
My best guess is that it was either polished down due to some damage, stolen from the factory and signed later or sold, unsigned, as a second choice and then later signed.
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I just noticed a picture of this piece in Mark Friedman's The Best of Swedish Art Glass where he gives an estimated value of $175-$250 for it. I find hs values more accurate than most, at least fro the North American market.
David