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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: josordoni on February 07, 2007, 06:52:57 PM

Title: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: josordoni on February 07, 2007, 06:52:57 PM: Oh dear. Yet again my ability to read scrawly signatures is very much put to the test and found wanting.

This is a very lovely little paperweight, for some reason I thought it might be American? I can't read the signature at all. Because of the background, it is very difficult to even see it on the photo, so I also blew it up and outlined the signature in blue, in case it helped.

It didn't for me, but might for someone more experienced.

Here we are:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4928 paperweight
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4927 signature and pontil
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4929 outlined signature

Thanks!
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: Max on February 07, 2007, 07:58:56 PM: Firstly, I know almost zero about paperweights, but it does bear a passing resemblance to Peter Layton's landscape series. I don't know how he finishes off paperweights and could be wildly wrong! :)
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 07, 2007, 09:06:52 PM: Stankard ??? ??? :-\
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: KevinH on February 07, 2007, 09:14:46 PM: Layton - could be.

Stankard - no way!
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: aa on February 07, 2007, 09:19:27 PM: William Walker?
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: Frank on February 07, 2007, 11:17:15 PM: Karin W???
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: aa on February 07, 2007, 11:34:47 PM: Quote from: Frank on February 07, 2007, 11:17:15 PM
Karin W???

Did she make paperweights? :)
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: josordoni on February 07, 2007, 11:39:10 PM: Quote from: Max on February 07, 2007, 07:58:56 PM
Firstly, I know almost zero about paperweights, but it does bear a passing resemblance to Peter Layton's landscape series. I don't know how he finishes off paperweights and could be wildly wrong! :)

Now, its funny you should say that because I looked at the surname, and thought it looked like the way Layton signs, but I couldn't make Peter from the first name. And I didn't know he made paperweights in that style.

However, they are extraordinarily helpful at the London Glassworks, and have id'd two pieces of his I have had, so I will send pics through - and hope they won't be fed up with me....
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: aa on February 08, 2007, 12:12:05 AM: What makes you think it is Peter Layton over William Walker?
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: josordoni on February 08, 2007, 08:49:13 AM: I don't particularly, Adam. It was just strange that I had thought Layton, and then thought not - but then, I have seen a Layton signature, and not a William Walker one.

Add to which I have an email addy for Layton's studio, and not for WW...
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: aa on February 08, 2007, 09:00:49 AM: Hmmm :) maybe it's time to hone up those Google skills? :)

Ever been on an Easter Egg treasure hunt? The one where you find a clue that may lead you to the answer? :)
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: aa on February 10, 2007, 04:42:54 PM: As a matter of interest, how much did you pay for it?
:)
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: josordoni on February 11, 2007, 03:48:34 PM: Quote from: aa on February 10, 2007, 04:42:54 PM
As a matter of interest, how much did you pay for it?
:)
I'll tell you when I see you next week.... ;D ;D

Do you want me to bring it?
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: aa on February 11, 2007, 05:53:35 PM: Quote from: josordoni on February 11, 2007, 03:48:34 PM
Do you want me to bring it?

If you like, but I do charge for valuations/attributions! :) Tell you what...how about a side bet....if someone can prove to you that it is not William Walker, then I'll give you twice what you paid for it and you keep the paperweight....but if it turns out that it is William Walker, then you give it to me!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: josordoni on February 11, 2007, 06:47:57 PM: Did someone tell you I was a gamblin' (wo)man?? coz they LIED....

8) 8) 8)

I have no doubt you are right, so bets are probably safer to be off...
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: aa on February 11, 2007, 06:59:04 PM: Very wise :) You would have been robbed. I only bet on a certainty. :)
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: Frank on February 11, 2007, 07:43:33 PM: People who have run glass galleries and also ran exhibitions for glass artists, including a certain W Walker, and probably handled more of his work than anyone bar the artist and assistants, should perhaps not be making unfair bets >:D Does the illegality of insider knowledge also cover the art trade.
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: aa on February 11, 2007, 07:57:16 PM: Why not?

Tiffany expert goes into antiques shop and says:
"How much is the Tiffany vase in the window?"
Dealer replies: "It's not Tiffany, it's a fake"
Tiffany expert replies "Well I think it's Tiffany"
Dealer says I wish it was but it's a modern copy.
Tffany Expert replies: "How much is it?"
Dealer says "$25".
Tiffany expert says I'll take it", and on the way out says "by the way you can find one like this in my book".

Is there a difference? Expert has given the dealer the nod that it is Tiffany. Dealer could have upped the price. Dealer thinks they know better. What more is expert to do? Do you have to publish a book to be an expert?
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: Frank on February 11, 2007, 08:07:29 PM: ;D
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the sig
Post by: Glen on February 11, 2007, 08:17:10 PM: Neat story, Adam ;)
Title: Re: Lovely little signed weight - wild flowers and grasses, but I can't read the
Post by: josordoni on February 11, 2007, 09:07:46 PM: Quote from: Frank on February 11, 2007, 07:43:33 PM
People who have run glass galleries and also ran exhibitions for glass artists, including a certain W Walker, and probably handled more of his work than anyone bar the artist and assistants, should perhaps not be making unfair bets >:D Does the illegality of insider knowledge also cover the art trade.

It wasn't unfair, cos I didn't take him up on it, as I knew he was right!!

and he knew I knew he knew I knew... (thank you Beyond Our Ken...)

You've heard of Caveat Emptor.. this is Caveat Aleator