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Title: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: robbo on September 21, 2012, 04:07:04 PM
Hi - I wonder if anybody can help with this bird -

It has pink and green streaks with bullicante bubbles; six tail feathers and green eyes. It's head turns to one side slightly.

TIA,

robbo
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: rosieposie on September 22, 2012, 01:14:45 AM
Pretty certain that's Murano,  can someone call for Anita...she my well be able to confirm.

I love it,  very very pretty Robbo.
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 22, 2012, 09:49:43 AM
It is beautifully modelled, but it looks as if Gunther von Hagen has been at it....
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: wolkenreb on September 22, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
Nice one Sue - very descriptive!  ;D
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 23, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
 ;D You see it too Nancy?  :-*
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: TxSilver on September 24, 2012, 01:06:12 AM
How long is it, robbo? I would say it is Murano glass, perhaps Fratelli Toso or Barovier & Toso based on the streaks and bubbles.
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: robbo on September 24, 2012, 06:43:28 AM
Thanks Anita,

It's 11.5cm, beak to tail. I saw the Barovier & Toso and Fratelli Toso ones with the streaks and bubbles in the zoo but nothing in this shape so wasn't sure.

robbo
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: rosieposie on September 24, 2012, 09:16:58 AM
I think it is beautiful and so carefully made... and like you Anita, I was thinking Barovier & Toso.
 I am trying to see if there is anything like it I can post for you Robbo.
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: TxSilver on September 24, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
It is a nice bird. I was hoping the size would tell us something, but it is in neutral territory. I don't know which of the companies it is. I hope we can find one like it with a label.
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: robbo on September 24, 2012, 04:26:05 PM
Thanks Anita & Rosie -

I'll be looking out for anything similar too. He is a bit of a cutie  ;D

robbo
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: charliepedro on September 27, 2012, 12:01:23 AM
Hi Robbo/guys,

I handled a similar birdie recently which I felt was probably of Vetreria Archimede Seguso based on its style and quality of finish. Looks kinda similar in shape to yours, particularly the eyes and beak..... he was only about 4-5'' long and weighing less than 250gr....
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 27, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
The wings are at a different angle, Charliepedro, but the general "model" for the construction of the bird looks very similar... and also very similar to a bird Christine has, although the tail doesn't have such pronounced "fingers".
Aniita, you've got images - the nearest you, Christine and myself came to an id was tentitively Odall.
This is the link to Christine's images of it.
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=1&page=6
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: rosieposie on September 27, 2012, 10:37:33 AM
I thought this one of yours was more akin to Robbos bird:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/605831-582/Barovier-Toso-Murano-Bird-Blue

Yes, the tail is different, but the general colouring and bullicante is so similar as to be in my thoughts, almost a definate makers match.
Presumably each artist could be expected to make a variety of shaped birds with the same or similar colouring and techniques, if only to relieve the boredom of repitition??
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 27, 2012, 10:48:57 AM
The general modelling of that one is not remotely the same quality, Rosieposie. The head is quite awful - while the other ones have a softness that looks absolutley real - as if there are real bones and sinews and muscles holding the position under the skin and feathers (as opposed to the internal design of these bullicante ones - which looks as if the bones and muscles and blood vessels are graphically illustrated with the skin and feathers removed... )
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: TxSilver on September 27, 2012, 01:48:00 PM
Many of the Barovier & Toso earlier (c. 1950) birds had the swollen brow look. I used to think it looked awful, but now I see the same brow as an indicator that it might be B&T.  Robbo's bird is not Oball. It is too carefully made and looks too good. Oball birds are okay, but not as nice as the old quality Murano birds. I've not see Oball do bullicante like robbo's bird. So I think we can cross them off the list of possibilities. Robbo's bird looks vintage to me and is a good bird.
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: robbo on September 28, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone.

The Seguso bird is nice but there are some subtle differences—there's an extra tail feather and the "wings" look to be joined together over the back. I did have a signed Oball bird before but the modelling just wasn't as good as this one. Interesting to see that one Rosie, there's something similar in the "Zoo"—the bullicante with the streaks of pink and green are exactly like my little critter  ;D

r
Title: Re: Pink and Green Bullicante Bird
Post by: rosieposie on September 28, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
I would be prepared to put money on it being the same maker robbo.... it ts lovely.