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Title: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Paul S. on April 13, 2009, 06:22:43 PM
something else from the Easter break, and although I have looked in Ivo's book, I'm not a lot wiser  -  does the C stands for Selbing??
Possibly a standard production plain decanter, which of course may have been given the cricketers at a later date.             As it may not be possible to read all of the incised wording, it reads....."Zaglo C101  U.K. NO. 148.....and along the opposite edge of the base....."Orrefors  A(?) 4324(?)"       About 24 cms. tall.
Any advice will be appreciated.      (At least I'm starting to post some of these questions on the correct board  -  got the Humppila wrong tho.)   cheers    Paul S.
Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: cjf on April 14, 2009, 07:06:40 AM
If I were to hazard a guess, I would say that the "Zaglo" mark is the marking of an external engraver (or possibly some kind of inventory mark). In any case, it is not from Orrefors. Being at work, I do not have access to my catalogues, but the "A" indicates that this one was designed by Olle Alberius, and I would believe some time in the second half of the 1970s.
Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Ivo on April 14, 2009, 08:39:05 AM
Google Zaglo U.K. and find this
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a-orrefores-zaglo-5108-5107a-uk-no-6-vase-engrave-1-c-fo1jwgxkj7
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a-late-20th-century-zaglo-crystal-engraved-decant-1-c-yeq3ou2n5e
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/crystal-decanter-by-orrefors-commemorating-the-15-1-c-ntn6u3koc2

The last one tells us Zaglo's first name is Aleek - but that is where the information stops....

Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Paul S. on April 14, 2009, 01:17:08 PM
my sincere thanks to both of you  -  and I will continue looking along the lines of Ivo's suggestion.    It is perhaps slightly older than I had at first supposed, but it is a nice qualtity item, and soon I shall fill it with Whisky!!      cheers             Paul S.
Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Max on April 14, 2009, 02:31:02 PM
Slightly off topic: Don't leave whisky too long in lead crystal decanters as the lead leaches out and contaminates the alcohol.  Best to drink it quickly, then there's not a problem.   >:D :D

Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Paul S. on April 14, 2009, 03:15:22 PM
even more 'slightly off topic'................hello Max, thanks for the comment.    Might this be the origin of the expression, 'this'll put lead in you pencil'  -  mind you I'm not too good at writing anyway!      Jokes aside, subsequent to my ealier comment about filling with Scotch, I had thought I wud probably not actually use the Orrefors at all.    Reason being that I recently bought another nice but ordinary whiskey decanter from a charity shop  -  and in the course of stuffing the stopper back in one day, I must have been a little p....d  -  missed the hole, and whacked the side of the neck of the body - thus sending a shard of glass from the stopper into the liquid.    Thereafter wondering at what stage i wud pour a drink and swallow a sliver of lead crystal.      It hasn't happened yet.            cheers            Paul S.
Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Max on April 14, 2009, 09:20:55 PM
Thereafter wondering at what stage i wud pour a drink and swallow a sliver of lead crystal.      It hasn't happened yet.            cheers            Paul S.

I did that with a glass casserole dish.  Put the lid on too hard and broke a bit of glass off.  My son ate the casserole (told him not to!) but he reckons he didn't find any glass...but we never found the bit that broke off.   :huh: :-X


Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: glassobsessed on April 14, 2009, 10:17:33 PM
I have heard that the problem of lead leaching out of the glass is limited, only really affecting the glass molecules closest in contact with the liquid. My knowledge of chemistry and physics is limited but I was under the impression that several 'fills' of a decanter with booze would reduce contamination to minimal levels. I do not know how long you would have to leave the whiskey in there or how much you must throw away without drinking.

Sacrilege! So Max is spot on.

John.
Title: Re: deciphering Orrefors decanter
Post by: Ivo on April 15, 2009, 06:05:37 AM
I have heard that the problem of lead leaching out of the glass is limited, only really affecting the glass molecules closest in contact with the liquid. My knowledge of chemistry and physics is limited but I was under the impression that several 'fills' of a decanter with booze would reduce contamination to minimal levels. I do not know how long you would have to leave the whiskey in there or how much you must throw away without drinking.

Sacrilege! So Max is spot on.

John.



it has always been my understanding that the drink will kill you long before the lead does.