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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: aslan7 on December 02, 2009, 03:57:43 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270488919872&ssPageName=ADME:L:COSI:US:1123
It's probably not a big deal for you experts, and I probably overpaid, but I finally got a good a really nice example of the Barbini "Winged Vase" (see above). It is a great design and I love the green-amber color combination. It is supposedly mint and clearly has the Weil label which is very nice. Are these common? I have seen a few around but they have been chewed up a bit and the colors for me were objectionable, as in pink, and also expensive. Could not resist the temptation to show this around. Regards, rt
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Aslan, I personally don't think you over paid for it. Of course, I love Barbini's Weil Ceramics pieces and I am also willing to over pay as well but I have seen people try to sell them for a lot higher on other sites. I am not sure what the book value is on this particular vase but I think you will enjoy it for years to come. Congrats! :hiclp:
P.S. These pieces are getting harder to find with the labels still in good condition and without any damage. I think you have a nice example.
tam bam
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Thanks--I have the perfect place to put it and love the well crafted, massive feel as well as the design. This marks a departure from my usual bird figures. rt
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thats a beauty, lovely clean lines,
with a good clear label, tam bam said it all, congratz lovely piece :hiclp: :chky:
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I know the label is important but is there any harm in detaching it and placing it on the underside of the base? I am placing it in the middle of the dining room table so it doesn't look very good, at least to people who don't collect glass. It is nice to use these basically utilitarian things carefully, and not stash them away as museum pieces.
Next I would like to get one of those Barbini seashells which would make an interesting contrast with Flygsfors Coquille pieces. There I would have no problem retaining the label. rt
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Not to tell you what to do with your lovely piece of Barbini glass but usually when you detach an old label or any label (in particular an old label from the 1960's) the label then becomes damaged. I know it is not that attractive but this authenticates the piece but that is just me.
I have a swan with the Weil Ceramics label and it is not in a good place but I know once I remove it and place it on the underside it will damage the fine label. I don't know why the Weil Ceramics labels are in such visible places but I am sure that is why you see a lot of these pieces with no labels at all. Personally as a collector I like the visible labels so I can show people I have an original Alfredo Barbini piece and they can marvel it.
tam bam
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Excellent piece aslan! It is a lovely colour. If i had known this was on the market aslan, you might have had to pay more for it to win! ;)
I had my eye on something else though. ;D
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230400864963&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Sorry. I haven't been up to tech to learn the way everyone alse does it here. :mrgreen:
I saw this on ebay and thought, this is mine! But thankfully i only paid slightly more than i had anticipated. :hiclp:
Personally as a collector I like the visible labels so I can show people I have an original Alfredo Barbini piece and they can marvel it.
tam bam
I tend to think tam bam they did this deliberately. Maybe an ego thing! They did some excellent pieces such as aslans here.
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Is that a definite Archimede Seguso label ? on the bottle .
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I guess the label stays then. Probably this would be a bigger issue if there were fakes of these Barbini "console" bowls, as they are properly called, but it seems they were made for Weil in various sizes and even shapes. I understand that labels are faked a great deal also.
I did notice that Seguso piece and admired it greatly, especially the green color. Very nice!
rt
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Is that a definite Archimede Seguso label ? on the bottle .
Hi JP, it has been mentioned that it could be an import label. I have seen both AS and AF on these labels. AS could be Archimede Seguso (not saying it is) but I don't think anyone knows what AF means. Hence the confusion on these labels. I haven't done any further research into the label myself (if only glass could be my full time job!). Probably will be another mystery for along time to come!
It still hasn't arrived yet! Waiting somewhat patiently for my new green bit to arrive. ;D
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JP asked the same question as I had. When we (the GMB) were discussing this label (the round one) another time, I wondered if it was the precursor of the Promovetro label, with the letters standing in for the current numbers. However, there doesn't seem to a very broad range of letter combinations. This isn't a label that either Pina or Heiremanns (in Themes and Variations) show as being Seguso. On the other hand, we know that Seguso made bottles for Drioli.
It will be interesting to hear what you think when you've handled the piece.
David
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Kane etc
JP asked the same question as I had. When we (the GMB) were discussing this label (the round one) another time, I wondered if it was the precursor of the Promovetro label, with the letters standing in for the current numbers. However, there doesn't seem to a very broad range of letter combinations. This isn't a label that either Pina or Heiremanns (in Themes and Variations) show as being Seguso. On the other hand, we know that Seguso made bottles for Drioli.
It will be interesting to hear what you think when you've handled the piece.
David
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Could the AF stand for Anzolo Fuga? jp
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I'd have thought no for a few reasons. First, the label usually belongs to the company, for Fuga mainly AVeM. All the labels on Fuga pieces I've seen, mainly photographs have been AVeM. Secondly, the pieces I've seen with an AF have been more tourist glass than anything Anzola Fuga did. Third, this strikes me as 1980's label, or, at the earliest, a 1970's label, well after Fuga stopped designing (no more of his designs were produced after he stopped designing for AVeM).
It's an interesting theory, but...
David
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I've just been doing a bit of digging. Drioli closed in the 70's so the label must be from then. There were other threads about Drioli including this one http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18534.0.html I've seen the same duck as the one one in this thread with the Kane's label--stylized rooster with initials AS--. I remember it because the first piece of glass I ever sold was exactly like the other animal. I thought it quite ugly and it was snapped up in an instant at an antique market. Taste is individual. I've not found any suggestions for a maker for the Drioli glass pieces.
BTW, to get back to the origin of this thread. I think the Barbini piece is lovely. I'm not surprised that you were unable to resist the temptation to show it. I would have succumbed more easily.
David
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I found this site which has a bit about Drioli as well.
http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/pages/zara!opendocument&startkey=Zara
Not much information in there but apparrently Drioli started out a very long time ago! Confirms it was closed sometimes in the 70's.
Still waiting for it to arrive. Hopefully soon! :thup:
Sorry aslan for hijacking your post!
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hi i found the winged vase in orange gold fleck with white interior 22 3/4'' long. 7'' tall i found that it has a bit of a vaseline glow to it. thank goodness they didn't know what they had got it for 17.50.