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British & Irish Glass / Joseph Webb sugar basin pattern 8018
« Last post by neilh on Today at 08:03:23 PM »
This unregistered piece can be identified from pattern sheets in the Pottery Gazette in the late 1880s, which show some Joseph Webb designs being transferred to Edward Moore.
This one is shown with a lid, and numbered pattern 8018.

My example is heavy and very well made, density 3.1g/cc

I would date this pattern to before 1870.
No my fault for not scrolling further to the end.
It's a very similar design. Not quite the same shape (or size maybe given one has 16 petal underplate and the other 14?) but  closely related.

This is very interesting. Thanks for sharing your information and knowledge :)

  Perhaps I was too vague as to the French sugar.  No. 43 in the catalogue illustrations, Saint Louis 1872 almost at the end. A more tapered shape but still round, the under plate illustrated below in half plate.

   Only one Sandwich catalogue known. It consist of goods lined up on shelfs against a black wall photographed. 80 pages and undated. Barlow/Kaiser settle on a date circa 1880. Nothing of the sort discussed in this thread.
Glass / Re: Michael Harris? Attenuated Vase.
« Last post by Lustrousstone on Today at 11:04:06 AM »
Lafiore is one glass manufacturer but they seem to sell other local goods in their shop
 :D Yes the shape does seem to resemble the planters in Japan its a possibility certainly appreciate your message thanks :)
Glass / Re: Michael Harris? Attenuated Vase.
« Last post by NevB on Today at 08:48:34 AM »
Thanks suzygpr, I think Lafiore glass is a bit like Murano so they could be by one of several makers, I will investigate further.
Glass / Re: Michael Harris? Attenuated Vase.
« Last post by suzygpr on Today at 08:17:22 AM »
Here's a labelled example, Lafiore from Mallorca
Glass / Re: Michael Harris? Attenuated Vase.
« Last post by NevB on Today at 07:49:13 AM »
Thanks Sue and John, the glass is fairly thick, the large vase weighs 1.4kg. They are attractive vases and they weren't expensive, I wonder if there is some sort of connection to Mdina/Michael Harris.
Glass / Re: Michael Harris? Attenuated Vase.
« Last post by glassobsessed on Today at 07:05:21 AM »
Absolutely but it would be good to know who did make them, I have seen vases and bowls with a pink and cream spiral that look a match.


Is the glass fairly thin on the bottles?
The shape on the sugar box is very different as well though?  At least to my eye.  The B &S appears taller and more rounded square.  The French version is oval.  The underplate is very different.  So I think the differences can be easily seen IF you were aware there were American versions and French versions.  I suppose it underlines the need to ensure the design details are an accurate match. 

Thanks so much for all the links and information.  It's extremely interesting looking at the way inspiration was used at various factories.
Are there pattern books for the B&S versions at all?
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